[Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?
Colin Smale
colin.smale at xs4all.nl
Thu May 14 10:18:51 UTC 2020
On 2020-05-14 11:49, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:39, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>> In the UK there are multiple hierarchies of geographic areas, for widely differing purposes, that frequently (but not always and not necessarily) share borders. For example Police Regions are based on traditional counties (which are not "administrative")
>
> By "traditional," do you mean the ceremonial counties (aka "lieutenancies")
> and the Welsh preserved counties?
>
>> with lots of anomalies.
>
> Yeah, like Police Scotland. Or the Police Service of Northern Ireland.
> Or the various forces in Wales, such as Dyfed Powys. Dyfed was
> formed by amalgamating Pembrokeshire, Carmarthenshire and
> Cardiganshire, was later split back into its component parts
> (Cardiganshire was renamed Ceredigion in that split), and Dyfed
> is now a preserved county.
By anomaly I meant where the boundary deviates from the basic high-level
area boundary.
> Then we have communities. Which are the secular replacement for
> parishes and in most cases parish councils have been replaced
> by community councils, often with the same name.
Civil Parishes in England and Communities in Wales (in fact all
government admin areas) are legally defined as areas of land. The
associated council may or may not exist, and the council may or may not
be active. Council jurisdiction can span multiple such areas
(joint/grouped parish councils, also happens with Communities in Wales),
and a polygon can actually be common to two or more such areas (LCPs,
Lands Common to Parishes). Many areas in England are unparished, meaning
they are not part of any Civil Parish area. What a mess. Scotland and
Northern Ireland are of course different again...
> And then there are health boards/NHS trusts. These are devolved. For
> example, Hywel Dda University Health Board (Bwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol)
> is part of NHS Wales (GIG Cymru). The Welsh health boards are
> divided into "network clusters", so Hywel Dda has Amman/Gwendraeth,
> Llanelli, North Ceredigion, North Pembrokeshire, South Ceredigion,
> South Pembrokeshire and Taf/Tywi. Good luck trying to figure out
> the boundaries of those.
I am sure someone knows where the boundaries are. Why should the fact
that health in Wales is a devolved responsibility make it any more
difficult?
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