[Tagging] Change of wiki page Key:access

Mark Wagner mark+osm at carnildo.com
Wed May 27 09:27:11 UTC 2020


On Wed, 27 May 2020 08:26:55 +0200
Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> On 2020-05-26 19:31, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> 
> > May 26, 2020, 19:19 by f at zz.de: 
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 06:46:11PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via
> > Tagging wrote: May 26, 2020, 18:04 by fernando.trebien at gmail.com: 
> >   
> >> Bikes may "pass" in two different ways: riding 
> >> (bicycle=yes/permissive/destination) or pushing
> >> (bicycle=dismount). Bikes are only completely forbidden if
> >> bicycle=no/private. 
> > bicycle=no does not mean that you cannot push bicycle 
> > bicycle=no and bicycle=dismount are de facto equivalents 
> > we have no widely used tag to indicate "walking with bicycle is
> > illegal here" 
> > 
> > Is it that in every jurisdication a cyclist pushing his bike is 
> > considered a pedestrian?  
> 
> Sometimes pushing bicycles is explicitly forbidden. 
> 
> It is highly conceivable that some rules, in some territories, apply
> to the bike as a vehicle, whereas others apply to the activity. Spot
> the difference between "no cycles" and "no cycling". If the rule says
> "no cycles", I guess that means you can't push it either. 

Easy example of that: in the United States, bicycles are forbidden in
federal Wilderness Areas.  It doesn't matter if you're riding the
bicycle, pushing it, or carrying it on your shoulder.  You might be
able to get away with completely disassembling it and carrying the
pieces in your backpack, but I don't know if anyone's tried it.

(People have gotten in trouble from other attempts at getting around
the "no form of mechanical transport" rule, such as climbing out of a
hovering helicopter.)

-- 
Mark



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