[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

Dolly Andriatsiferana privatemajory at gmail.com
Tue Nov 3 06:14:55 UTC 2020


Hi all,

Thanks a lot Lukas for reworking this proposal.

I like Joseph's idea of *electricity=grid/offgrid/yes/no* if you're
introducing *electricity:origin=**.
I'd suggest dropping the generator value as it brings confusion and can be
difficult to verify. Originally electricity=generator seemed to be intended
for diesel devices, but I think we should use something like
electricity:origin=diesel for it instead.

@Volker, I understand the tag might be less relevant in developed countries
where it is normal to have electricity. But electricity availability is an
important information in many developing countries (like mine) where most
of the population is not connected to the electricity grid. It would be
useful for health facilities and accommodation buildings... - See
Healthsites' data model at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Global_Healthsites_Mapping_Project
where the tag is used.

Good job, Lukas!

--
Dolly Andriatsiferana

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 4:11 AM Lukas Richert <lrichert at posteo.de> wrote:

> And, final email, I reworked the proposal page to include tagged examples
> and explained some implicit defintions in more detail.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/electricity
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On 30/10/2020 13:44, Lukas Richert wrote:
>
> Since a lot of people apparently didnt see the RFC the first time, I'll go
> back to RFC status for now. (I thought the threads were sorted by subject
> title of the email and didnt check online if it was actually visible. )
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The original message:
>
> Hello all,
>
> after the comments on the confusing nature of the word 'source' in my
> original proposal of 'electricity:source', I have now changed the name to
> 'electricity:origin' as suggested on the discussion page. Furthermore, I
> would like to revive and extend the proposal of the key 'electricity' as
> this previously conflicted with parts of the electricity:source proposal
> and was not consistent.
>
> Both proposal pages:
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/electricity
>
> [2]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/electricity:source
>
> The idea now is to allow for the tagging of buildings or amenities that
> have electricity. The rationale is described in more detail at [1]. Tags
> such as access, fee, schedule and origin can then narrow down the
> availability to the public and the question of financial or direct origin
> of the electricity.
>
> This is distinct from the drafted tag power_supply as it is used to
> describe the type of sockets used at a specific outlet. The values for that
> tag are still currently under discussion.
>
> I would also not tag this as a subset of power=* as this maps the
> facilities and features that relate to the generation and distribution of
> electrical power and should not be used to map the consumers of electricity.
>
>
> I am eager to hear the feedback to the revised proposals!
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Also, perhaps relevant: both the  power_supply
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power_supply> and socket
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:socket>  keys describe the same
> feature. power_supply so far has occasionally been used in the manner that
> electricity proposes to be. Unfortunately, the proposal for power_supply is
> relatively inconsistent. I think the socket:* tag is better thought out and
> also currently more used. I would be in favor of deprecating power_supply
> and separating the two meanings it currently has into electricity=* and
> socket:*=#.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lukas
>
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