[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

[Paul Allen]

On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 18:57, Wieland Kestler <redoubleyou at outlook.de> wrote:

>
>
> The aim of this proposal is to establish a new tag for a type of „shops“
> that are way less professional as the „normal“ shops.
>

A shop is a shop.  You go there to buy something.  The opening hours may
be erratic; it may frequently run out of stock; the staff may be surly - it
doesn't matter, it's still a shop.


> Thanks also for the ideas around the tag shop=farm. But I think, what I
> mean is more specific. If I would use shop=farm I would expect a proper
> store with counter and staff. I think the idea of improving it by using
> openeing_hours="by appointment" is a good objection. Problem here: How can
> the goods be further specified? How can it be stated that horse manure can
> (also) be bought in this shop=farm? Or game (regardless of whether it was
> created through breeding or was shot by the hunter)? I think these products
> are not that typical for a shop = farm. Or the other way around: By using
> shop=farm you cannot find any places (e.g. via overpass) where horse manure
> can be bought.
>

product=horse_manure+produce=honey;eggs;game

-- 
Paul


>
> I hope at this Point it is clear what is meant by the proposal. (Maybe the
> name „direct_marketing“ is confusing – feel free to make suggestions)
>
>
>
> Another idea I like is to use craft=* in combination with
> direct_marketing=*. Inquiry here: which values you want to use? Something
> like „game“ and „horse_dung“ (separated by semikolon) or just „yes“? And of
> course the challenge here is to find a „craft“-value for all issues.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> *Von: *Niels Elgaard Larsen <elgaard at agol.dk>
> *Gesendet: *Freitag, 2. Oktober 2020 13:44
> *An: *tagging at openstreetmap.org
> *Betreff: *Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)
>
>
>
> Wieland Kestler:
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> >
> >
> > Due to the discussion in the german OSM-Telegram-group I made a proposal
> for tagging
> > points where people can buy e.g. game (meat) directly from the forester.
>
> What does "directly" mean?
>
> That forester probably did not shoot the animal himself. He most likely is
> not
> allowed to butcher it. And it might not actually be him selling the meat
> when you
> pick it up.
>
> shop=farm might be a stretch for game, although I do know a place selling
> deer meat
> that have all the deers inside a big fence.
>
> shop=farm is already used for eggs and honey.
> I would also assume that horse dung being sold usually does not come from
> wild horses.
>
> As for shop=farm not being permanently available, we have the
> "opening_hours" and
> "seasonal" tags. We can also use shop=farm,openeing_hours="by appointment"
> if there
> is not a shop infrastructure.
>
> >
> >
> > For more details see the proposal page:
> >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/shop%3Ddirect_marketing
> >
> > For comments use the discussion page:
> >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/shop%3Ddirect_marketing
> >
> >
> >
> > Tanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Wieland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
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