[Tagging] sleepable:physical=yes/no | Re: Benches and hostile architecture
Rory McCann
rory at technomancy.org
Thu Sep 10 18:10:01 UTC 2020
I asked about this ~1½ years ago too ( https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-February/thread.html#43244 ). In the end I thought `sleepable:physical=yes/no` is an accurate tag, and fits the OSM philosophy well (* https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-February/043270.html ) (though I've only added <10 tags for that https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/sleepable%3Aphysical )
I created a simple pic4review misson, which you can duplicate if you want. ( https://pic4review.pavie.info/#/mission/1313 ). You could also suggest a StreetComplete quest
There was some reddit threads:
• https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/avbmsb/is_there_a_preferred_way_of_mapping_possible/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/8rs7zf/how_to_map_antihomeless_bench/
On Sun, 23 Aug 2020, at 6:28 PM, Vucod via Tagging wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 1) I wish to tag benches that were designed to avoid that someone lie
> on it. There has been some related discussions in the past
> (https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/avbmsb/is_there_a_preferred_way_of_mapping_possible/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/8rs7zf/how_to_map_antihomeless_bench/ )
> but with no conclusion. It is possible that it has retained people to
> map that kind of objects. Today, there is nearly no such information in
> OSM. Maybe it is because it is not its place? Nobody expressed that
> clearly.
>
> So, I started to use the tag *lying_hindrance=yes* on some benches. In
> case of doubts, this can be verified when doing surveys, by lying on
> the bench. This could also be determined most of the time by looking at
> a few things. The length of the bench, the presence of a slope, the
> presence of separation between the seats of the bench, and by checking
> if it is a standing bench. Note that length was refused as an official
> key for bench and that the key for the separation doesn't exist
> (armrest does not specifically concern the inner part of the bench).
> The tag could be extended by specifying the hindrance type: armrest,
> standing_bench, short_length, slope, ...
>
> What do you think about this tag? Do you have alternative ideas?
>
> 2) Also, I wish to map something else related to hostile architecture
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_architecture>. I wish to map
> devices that are placed near the entrance of shops to prevent people to
> sit there (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdHfvsCP7A,
> https://twitter.com/ArticuleE/status/1222197697333145603,
> https://twitter.com/ArticuleE/status/1215931276944924672). I was going
> to add a combination of tags on the building where the shop is located:
>
> sitting_hindrance=yes
> sitting_hindrance:location=street_side
>
> It can also be verified quite easily. A general tag like
> hostile_architecture={sitting_hindrance|lying_hindrance} would also be
> quite useful for mappers to rapidly understand the purpose of these
> tags.
>
> What do you think about it?
>
> Thanks for your time
>
> Vucod
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