[Tagging] Proposed features/trailblazed=poles; cairns; symbols ... Approved

Jaromír Mikeš mira.mikes at gmail.com
Tue Apr 20 07:41:41 UTC 2021


Sorry I send wrong link ... should be:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:trailblazed

út 20. 4. 2021 v 9:40 odesílatel Jaromír Mikeš <mira.mikes at gmail.com>
napsal:

> I changed definition this way:
>
>    - trailblazed=symbols can be used only if there is no waymarked route
>    tagged with a osmc:symbol
>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:osmc:symbol>=* symbol
>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:symbol>=* wiki:symbol
>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wiki:symbol>=* or just a
>    colour. If this condition is met trailblazed=symbols can be used and
>    additional tag can be added osmc:symbol
>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:osmc:symbol>=* symbol
>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:symbol>=* or wiki:symbol
>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wiki:symbol>=*
>    - trailblazed=poles or trailblazed=cairns can be used as combination
>    with waymarked route tagged by a osmc:symbol
>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:osmc:symbol>=* symbol
>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:symbol>=* wiki:symbol
>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wiki:symbol>=* or just a
>    colour.
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:trailblazed:visibility
>
> please let me know if this definition is fine know or it still should be
> improved
>
> regards
>
> mira
>
> út 20. 4. 2021 v 8:31 odesílatel Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com>
> napsal:
>
>> Jaromír Mikeš <mira.mikes at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I find this:
>>>>
>>>>   There must be taken extra caution when using trailblazed=symbols this
>>>>   tag should be never used when there is "normal" marking on relation to
>>>>   avoid confusions and double tagging !!!
>>>>
>>>> to be completely not understandable:
>>>>
>>>>   - What is "normal" (and why is in quotes, other than the usual reason
>>>>     that people put words in quotes to indicate that they don't really
>>>>     know what they mean).
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are right I am struggling to find the right term for the common
>>> marked trail tagged by osmc:symbol on relation ...
>>>
>> What you are suggesting?
>>>
>>>
>>>>   - Is a simple color blaze a symbol?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Might be if having the shape of a symbol.
>>>
>>>   - Is best practice to use osmc:symbol to describe the blazes?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is possible ... it is hopefully clear from the "Values" table and
>>> "Examples" table
>>> Isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>>   - If there is an osmc:symbol tag, is it then the recommendation not to
>>>>     add trailblazed=symbol?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If there is already an  osmc:symbol tag on relation then it is not
>>> recommended to add trailblazed=symbols on way.
>>> This is more precise I believe. You would prefer such a definition?
>>>
>>
>> A route is waymarked, tagged with a symbol or osmc:symbol or sometimes
>> just a colour.
>> It may contain ways visible only by special "trailblazes", and the
>> route's waymarks are not necessarily showing where the way is.  The
>> "trailblazed" tag is on the way and marks the path. The route symbol is on
>> the route relation and shows where the route goes.
>> If an otherwise invisible path belongs to a route, situations may differ.
>>
>> * The route's symbol may be the only marking showing where the way is.
>> Then the way would get trailblazed=symbol (or simply yes)
>>
>> * The route's waymarkings do not (or ar not enough to) show the invisible
>> way. E.g. just poles, no route symbols at all on that secftion. Then the
>> way  gets trailblazed=poles (or simply yes).
>>
>> Nederland has routes like this. There is a trend to remove hiking route
>> symbols from e.g. a dune  area and let the hiker find his or her way to the
>> next pole somewhere on a dune top.Then the mappers draws a way following
>> the line of poles, just avoiding obstacles, and this way will be included
>> in the route relation(s), even though there is no route symbol along the
>> way.
>>
>>
>> * Since there are poles showing where the path is, the route's symbols
>> are conveniently attached to the poles.Then the way still gets
>> trailblazed=poles or yes, and the route still gets symbol or osmc:symbol.
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