[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - reusable packaging

Philip Barnes phil at trigpoint.me.uk
Fri Apr 23 15:44:24 UTC 2021

On Friday, 23 April 2021, Seth Deegan wrote:
> All of those comparisons you made are things that are going to change much
> more often than whether a store accepts reusable packaging.
> I don't think stores are going to change their policy on reusable
> packaging once they start it.
It depends, until the last year I could take a container to the local pub and get it filled with beer. Currently refilling containers is illegal and they have to use a new container each time.

Phil (trigpoint)

> I and the author see this tag being primarily being used on shops that sell
> food. The chance of them changing their policy on a process as simple as
> simple as distributing food is pretty unlikely.
> I and other eco-advocates around the world see the necessity of
> transitioning to reusable packaging. It's likely that many stores will
> adopt this policy in the future and OSM seems like the perfect platform to
> document that progress and also benefit the consumer.
> lectrician1 <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Lectrician1>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 9:15 AM Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am against tags that describe short-term business decisions. A shop
> > might be part of the XY alliance today and part of the ABC alliance
> > tomorrow. They might offer cash withdrawal at the register today and
> > stop doing that tomorrow. They might buy green power today and nuclear
> > power tomorrow. The supermarket might carry gluten-free food today and
> > drop it tomorrow. All these are decisions that are made by some
> > management people somewhere in the chain store's management department
> > based on forecasts about which "brand message" will bring them the most
> > customers, and most of them can be changed willy-nilly, from one day to
> > the next.
> >
> > I do not wish OpenStreetMap to become a tool in this marketing exercise,
> > and I think it is futile for us to run after each little adjustment made
> > by the store marketing department.
> >
> > Of course if taken to the extreme this opinion would apply to opening
> > times and some other frequently recorded things as well. Personally, I
> > think there are some properties that are relatively essential - is the
> > shop open, and maybe what chain is it part of, if any. But do I really
> > need OpenStreetMap to record details about whether a shop has reusable
> > packaging? My opinion is, no - not least because it is hard enough to
> > keep opening times current, I don't want to have to enter the shop and
> > ask if they have changed their policy regarding reusable packaging in
> > the last year.
> >
> > Bye
> > Frederik
> >
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