[Tagging] Proposed rewrite Of highway=track wiki page - Third Draft

Bert -Araali- Van Opstal bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com
Mon Apr 26 21:27:41 UTC 2021

There are many Dutch speaking communities outside of the Netherlands.  
They need a translation for the "global" page, not the local practice in 
the Netherlands. It is an inappropriate justification not to supply a 
good translation.  If you are in need to reflect local usage in a 
specific country, you can perfectly do this in local chapter or 
community wiki pages, in Dutch, specific for the Netherlands. As we do 
it for English and other languages.  Justifying that a translation of 
the improved description would brake or make local tagging incorrect 
implies that there is something fundamentally wrong with the local 
practice, being it wrong interpretation or a non documented local variant.
It is very bad practice and creates problems in other areas. What if 
Dutch speakers want to map tracks in other countries ? They refer to the 
global translated page and read a local practice (variant), applying it 
in other areas around the world and thus creating conflicts with the 
local communities there, who do follow global guidelines.

And this is actually what happens many times, as f.i. in Africa because 
of lots of confusion and annoyance in the local community with good 
hearted humanitarian mappers mapping according to their local practices.

Global practices need to be translated as accurate as possible for 
global application.  Local pages can reflect local variants or 
amendments, specifically indicating that this tag is used as described 
only in that specific area or country.  So, make a local variant of the 
current translated page and a new translation for the new improved 
global one seems to be the only reasonable way forward.


Bert Araali

On 20/04/2021 22:35, Peter Elderson wrote:
> About translation: I'm usually all for Dutch translations, but in this 
> case I'm not going to do it. The reason is that it would invalidate or 
> outdate a lot of tagging in Nederland, where in fact the tracks are 
> unpaved through-roads. They look like tracks (double tracked unpaved 
> and do give access to the land or forest, but they also interconnect 
> larger paved roads and often at the same time give access to housing. 
> Although I agree in principle with the change in definition, but I 
> think means that these track roads are now suddenly unpaved 
> unclassifieds, I am not going to advocate changing it.
> Fr gr Peter Elderson
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