[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Couloir 2

[Yves]

Joseph, you don't have to translate, just trust the Papuasian mountaineer to do it. 
As always in niche or specialized tagging, IMO it is better to abstain to vote if the concept is not familiar enough to you. 
Yves 



Le 18 février 2021 21:50:09 GMT+01:00, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> a écrit :
>> Does everyone need to understand when to use couloir versus gully?
>
>Mappers in Japan, China, Nepal, Peru, Russia, Azerbaijan, Indonesia and
>other countries with high mountains will need to be able to translate the
>definition of this tag into their own languages and cultural contexts, so
>it should have a specific definition which can be understood when
>translated.
>
>For example, I would like to be able to translate the definition of this
>tag into Bahasa Indonesia, so that other mappers in Papua Indonesia (where
>there are >5000 meter peaks with glaciers and snow) will know when to use
>it.
>
>– Joseph Eisenberg
>
>On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 12:45 PM Walker Kosmidou-Bradley <
>walker.t.bradley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I’m curious about the applicability of definitions.  If we have a
>> substantial community that uses a certain feature, and is clear about how
>> to tag it, does it matter for the rest of the community? This is similar to
>> the long past attempt to include Karez/qanat features, which are only found
>> in limited parts of the world.  If there is a solid body of OSM users who
>> see the need to tag Couloirs (mountaineers and mountaineer rescue folk),
>> they are likely the ones going to do the tagging.  For those who don’t
>> know, the difference between a hill and a mountain can seem odd, but for
>> those who are going to tag and use such features, it’s clear.
>>
>> Does everyone need to understand when to use couloir versus gully?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Walker
>>
>> > On Feb 18, 2021, at 15:34, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > sent from a phone
>> >
>> >> On 18 Feb 2021, at 20:56, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately I don't think this makes it clear when to use
>> natural=gully or natural=couloir.
>> >
>> >
>> > I had this same impression, as someone not very familiar with the
>> features of mountainous environment, even less in English, it remains
>> mostly opaque what a couloir is, and how it can be distinguished from
>> other, similar features.
>> > I also had the impression, but it could be wrong, that usage or
>> usefulness for mountaineers may be part of the distinction (the same
>> feature, by shape and size, can have a different name if it is dangerous or
>> useful for passing)?
>> >
>> > Can couloirs only occur in specific kinds of mountains? What are the
>> preconditions/typical environment/geological conditions?
>> >
>> > Cheers Martin
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Tagging mailing list
>> > Tagging at openstreetmap.org
>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tagging mailing list
>> Tagging at openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
>>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20210218/cd50ef7a/attachment-0001.htm>