[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - holy well

[Bert -Araali- Van Opstal]

Aren't all of these to be considered as a place_of_worship? Worship (as
is religious) is neutral enough and we already have tags for most if not
all of these items. I consider worship as a broad term that can be used
in all these examples: putting flowers, prayers, meditation, offerings
etc... are all expressions of worship of one or multiple gods or
religious symbols.
A well is a well, religious or not, atheists or other believers consider
it like that, we have a general man_made=well for that. A cross is a
cross, their or non-Christian cultures who use symbols which we all call
a cross in other religions, although we defined them also as man_made
and here a tree grown in a cross shape, that's a religious symbol, that
is a "holy" thing but do I want to tag it as man_made ? (but that's
again a different discussion and "special case"). The religious context
can be added with an existing tag: denomination = *. 
If it's located within or near a larger site that as a whole is
considered already a place_of_worship or a cemetery etc... it's even
simpler, just add a well node, a cross node etc... to the area. If you
want to map it as a node, fine, it's man_made=well and add
amenity=place_of_worship + denomination.  What is against that ?

I don't understand where the need comes from of so many people in this
group to add ever more specialised top level keys. It makes OSM and it's
accessibility ever more complex.  If we have good and clear tagging what
is against attribution ? We are creating ever more duplicate use cases
for essentially variants of the same things, making it ever more
complicated as when tags get more and more used to deprecate them and
get stuck.  Frankly speaking, making a mess of it.

On 19/02/2021 01:38, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
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> On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 at 06:34, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
> <tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
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>     Many places with "miraculous water" / "blessed water" do not
>     qualify for
>     amenity=place_of_worship, and such tagging would be incorrect
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> I mentioned this the other week as part of the discussion about
> historic cemeteries, but didn't get any response.
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> Maybe we could use a new top tag of religious= to cover all sorts of
> things like roadside crosses, grottos, shrines & now wells, & move
> them away from amenity / man-made / historic / tourism etc?
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> Thanks
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> Graeme
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