[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shrubbery

[Bert -Araali- Van Opstal]

I understand Vincent, but the approach to lift just a part out of the 
definition doesn't help us to find a consensus. That is why I included 
the definition and extensions for all related natural and landcover tags 
which might interfere or overlap with a new natural=shrubs or 
natural=shrubbery. What was between the " was improvement of existing 
definitions, what was outside the " additions to better diversify from 
other natural and landcover values.

As Martin said, heath does contain a height to make it different.  One 
can argue about "dwarf" was a good choice here, same as one could argue 
if we should use a specific number and measurement system to indicate 
the height.  As I said, what I proposed has lot's of room for 
improvement.  One could maybe better describe heights as f.i. knee-high 
for heath and not higher than a 2 level building for scrub and shrub.

Peter's opinion is also very appealing natural=greenery, however, 
without offending Peter, you are a general mapper and in that context 
natural=greenery is a perfect solution in my eyes, to be used as a 
general tag for any mix or seasonally changing vegetation.  However, as 
OSM evolves, there is a growing need to map more details and 
micro-mapping approaches. Much the same as there is general country 
mapping but also topographic mapping and mapping practices for 
individual parks, neighbourhoods and even plots. OSM allows mapping in 
all those applications and I think we should provide guidance in schemes 
that support all of them.
In that context mapping individual trees, shrubs and bushes is an 
approach I wouldn't discourage, and in these approaches there is surely 
a need to map groups of these as areas as we do for trees, as we do for 
grass and as we do for heath and scrub so far. So your proposal should 
cater and justify this.

That being said, I am still of the view that the definition of shrubs or 
shrubbery needs inclusion of the "human intervention" factor AND 
"height" factor, even asks us to add these to the definitions of those 
natural and landcover tags that didn't so far.

Greetings,

Bert Araali

On 24/02/2021 13:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Here some recent examples, they are in the city the same spot from 
> different angles, i.e. in an environment heavily shaped by human 
> influence.
> https://ibb.co/VvGFNBH <https://ibb.co/VvGFNBH>
> https://ibb.co/w08WnMF <https://ibb.co/w08WnMF>
> https://ibb.co/vPSV1GN <https://ibb.co/vPSV1GN>
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> Is there something that would qualify for the shrubs tag?
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> Cheerrs,
> Martin
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