[Tagging] Proposed feature - Voting - electricity

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Fri Jan 1 07:34:58 UTC 2021

I still have 3 major concerns with this proposal.

1) I share the concerns of Mateusz Konieczny that a tag like "
electricity:grid:origin=hydro"  is not verifiable, it's just advertising. I
don't think this is something we should try to map in OpenStreetMap,
because we try to avoid adding tags which are advertising claims which
cannot be confirmed to be true or false.

2) More importantly I still disagree with calling solar panels a
"generator" and requiring 2 extra tags to map when a remote building in a
developing country is powered by a diesel/gas generator. Right now
electricity=generator is easy to use and makes sense based on the standard
meaning of "generator" in English as a gas/diesel powered generator. After
this proposal, to tag this we would have to tag electricity=intermittent +
electricity:generator=yes + electricity:generator:input=diesel, I think?

3) It is unclear when we should use electricity=intermittent.

When I lived in Sentani, in Indonesia, the power would go out for a couple
hours, every other day, at random times, but it was available for at least
20 hours a day. Is that electricity=intermittent or electricity=yes?

What if there is only electricity for 3 hours every evening on a regular
schedule? Is that electricity=intermittent or electricity=no or

It seems like this proposal is designed for mapping developed countries and
has not considered other situations.

-- Joseph Eisenberg

On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 7:06 AM Lukas Richert <lrichert at posteo.de> wrote:
> As there were no further comments to the electricity proposal, I'd like
> to try another vote. I've gone into more detail on the tag transition
> and deprecation and changed the tagging to only be used for public
> amenities and buildings, which was the main concern.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/electricity
> Happy new year to everyone!
> - Lukas
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