[Tagging] Changing proposal process rules - RFC
minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us
Thu Jan 7 02:20:35 UTC 2021
Vào lúc 16:04 2021-01-06, Seth Deegan đã viết:
> I am an active community member of the OSM World Discord Server and am
> the "usual person" who manually posts updates to what proposals are in
> what status on the #proposals channel of the server. The fact that I
> have to do this manually is quite annoying. We do have a Matrix-linked
> bot that posts tagging mailing list updates in a dedicated channel, but
> because proposal discussion and tagging discussion is mixed, we can't
> just add this to the #proposals channel. My posts are
> /extremely/ helpful to the members of the Discord Server since most are
> not subscribed to the mailing list. The votes and feedback from those
> that saw my proposal update posts in the server on recent proposals has
> made a noticeable impact on voter-participation and community input for
> all of them.
Kudos for posting those updates and generally trying to get people on
the same page. We haven't had someone doing that regularly on OSMUS
Slack, but I know people there respond to ad-hoc notices about tagging
proposal voting when they come up, so I'm sure a more reliable version
of that would be appreciated.
> An announcement mailing list would work, but because it's a mailing
> list, it means that every other external communication channel (like
> Discord) outside of the mailing list itself would have to establish a
> middle-man bot that would post these updates to their channel from the
> mailing list.
> A better option would be to have a dedicated webhook, SMS, or other
> option that can broadcast updates proposal status much more bot-friendly
> and possibly provide better formatting than what an email can. Options
> * Dedicated form or site similar to OSMcal that any user can post
> their proposal updates to.
> * Wiki bot that broadcasts a notification every time one of the
> Proposal Status Categories on the Wiki gets a page added/removed
> (unfortunately adding a category to a watchlist doesn't mean new
> pages added to the category give notifications
> * Or something else?
Even before thinking about automation, there may be low-hanging fruit to
improve the proposal process's discoverability, assuming we want to keep
the process in its current form. Currently, a mapper has to follow five
links from the wiki's main page to get to a proposal that's in
"proposed" status (if they're even familiar with the eight statuses):
1. "Map features" in the sidebar or on the main page leads to
2. "Proposed features" in the fourth paragraph leads to
3. "Proposals by status" leads to
4. "Proposals with 'Proposed' status" leads to
5. A hopefully descriptively titled link leads to the proposal
Even in the absence of new extensions, I figure we could make more
extensive use of templates and categories to implement a section on the
main page that can surface interesting discussions. For example, the
news template  had only three items in all of 2020 -- how about
adding every RFC to that box?
If we do need automation, then the lightweight DynamicPageList extension
would be a lightweight solution , though it wouldn't provide
notifications like the other extensions proposed below.
> *Updated Information/Proposals:*
> I have created 2 topics/proposals for the Wiki on it's Meta page that
> solve the "Talk page source editing only" problem and the proposal
> notification problem (however further automation could be added) using
> MediaWiki extensions.
> * Add Structured Discussions (Flow) Extension
> Changes talk pages using this extension to this user-friendly page
> that allows for easy conversations.
> * Add CategoryWatch Extension
> "extends watchlist functionality to include notification about
> membership changes of watched categories"
These are both pretty neat extensions. Hopefully they wouldn't impact
the wiki's maintainability from a sysadmin perspective. Flow is only
deployed in a limited fashion on Wikimedia wikis, but I think that's due
to the community's attachment to wikitext-based discussions. For us,
anyone who loves monospaced text enough can still post to this mailing
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