[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Rideshare Access

[Clare Corthell]

Hi Everyone,

Given the rich discussion, particularly about pickup spots, I'm proposing
we limit this proposal to the tag definition for way only. This will allow
discussion of pickup and dropoff spots modeling to progress to some
commonly agreeable design.

Please see the updated proposal:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Rideshare_Access

I suggest this limited scope proposal move to voting at the end next week.
Thank you for everyone's input and feedback thus far.

Best wishes,
Clare

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 11:02 AM Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Am Mi., 11. Nov. 2020 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Ilya Zverev <ilya at zverev.info>:
>
>> My point is that anywhere except UK, “ride-sharing” is the term for Uber,
>> Lyft, Bolt, and such. While researching, I’ve found road signs and articles
>> using “Ride Share” or “ride-sharing” in the US, Australia, and Russia.
>>
>
>
> I am not convinced. In Germany, there clearly is a distinction between
> ride sharing ("Mitfahrzentrale" and others, "I am going somewhere anyway
> and share petrol costs with other people I can take on the free seats in my
> car") and companies like Uber etc. which are considered
> "Personenbeförderung" ("I sort of work informally for a company which
> weasels around taxi and employment legislation by trying to make their
> business look as if it was about ride sharing").
>
>
>
>> Even in UK, "ride-sharing" is a common term when addressing these
>> companies, e.g. on the BBC and Evening Standard websites. It can be found
>> much more often than "private hire”.
>>
>
>
> It is a term that these companies use themselves because it has a positive
> image, and someone picks it up. I do not say it cannot be understood, my
> point is we should not use it, because it devaluates the term.
>
>
>
>>
>> On the other hand, in London drivers of these cars need to have “private
>> hire” licenses. We’re discussing access restriction, and these are for
>> cars/drivers, not for companies. In London specifically this term might be
>> more correct. In any other place the probability of finding a “ride share
>> vehicles” restriction is higher than for “private hire vehicles”.
>>
>
>
> there are no restrictions for true ride sharing. These are cars like any
> other cars, and ordinary drivers who can go anywhere where any other driver
> can go (almost, actually they will have an advantage von heavy occupancy
> lanes).
>
>
>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridesharing_company
>>
>
>
> yeah, the English wikipedia is quite dominated by the North American point
> of view. I am a bit astonished that the page is only available in 6
> languages. which could hint that there is some problem with it, for example
> there is also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpool which is available
> in 32 languages.
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
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