[Tagging] Deprecating operational_status and especially values such as operational_status=closed

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Sun Jan 10 22:21:06 UTC 2021

I support deprecation.

A feature that is temporarily disused can still be tagged in the usual way
with disused:amenity=restaurant
Or landuse=quarry + disused=yes

When the feature is operational again, then remove the disused prefix or
disused=yes tag.

operational_status=closed is just a duplicate of these more widely used
tagging methods.

(I believe historically it developed in the Humanitarian mapping community,
where there was not always much discussion or search for other existing

-- Joseph Eisenberg

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 2:33 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> This change to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operational_status
> is now reverted.
> Jan 10, 2021, 11:21 by voschix at gmail.com:
> +1
> A single user should not deprecate a tag that is used 120k times in the
> database. For whatever reason.
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 at 11:18, Marc_marc <marc_marc at mailo.com> wrote:
> Le 10.01.21 à 10:50, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :
> > Some objects like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3158114573
> > are tagged with tags that I consider very problematic:
> operational_status=closed
> well, according to the proposal about this tag,
> it's for temporary status, it is not a replacement for a life cycle tag.
> a fire hydrant that is not operational for 6 months because there is
> work on the pipeline 1km away, it is still a fire hydrant for the common
> contributors, and the hydrant itself is not broken or abandoned when it
> is temporarily not operational
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operational_status
> > was already described as "now discouraged", I added
> > now also status=deprecated
> the interest of the operational_status tag was discussed in the fire
> hydrant proposal.
> Generally speaking, I find that the depreciation of a tag is in an
> absurd situation: on the one hand a proposal is easily rejected if it
> provides for the depreciation of a tag, on the other hand some
> contributors depreciate a tag before any discussion.
> the wiki loses value with this kind of behavior. we should discuss
> *before* a change of status, not after.
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