[Tagging] Junkyards? (was: landuse=depot?)

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Mon Jan 11 21:00:44 UTC 2021


That's a good point: these aircraft boneyards are more like junkyards which
are full of old motor vehicles which may be dismantled for spare parts or
scrap.

How are motor vehicle junkyards currently tagged?

-- Joseph Eisenberg

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 9:22 AM stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:29 AM, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'd say, given the pretense they operate under, that they're depots, but
> some
> > object to landuse=depot.  So landuse=cemetery + religion=aviation. :)
>
> I can't agree with this (the :) prompts me to think it's tongue-in-cheek),
> nor do I like landuse=depot, as it's much too vague.  In my opinion,
> landuse=depot could only be used if it had a richly-developed set of
> sub-tag values (like depot=aircraft_scrapyard).  But that is "reaching" and
> I feel strains the limits of both understandability and shared identity of
> the entity / entities we attempt to describe in this class of objects.
> This work (tagging categorization) isn't always easy.
>
> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 at 22:55, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > ATM, there are lots of places around the world where commercial aircraft
> are sitting unused, but mothballed
> > eg
> https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/83eefe0f513237ffe4c4d34b704b98cf?width=1280
> >
> > They are not being scrapped for spare parts so it's not an industrial
> area, they certainly aren't generating any revenue for the airlines that
> own them, so they're not commercial, so what do you call the area?
>
> Paul replies:
> > In reality they are dumps.  But we're supposed to recycle rather than
> > dump stuff, so we pretend there is a possibility they will be put back
> > into service.
>
> This, I can actually get behind.  "Dump" is technically true, although
> "recycling center" (of a very, aviation-specialized nature) seems more
> correct.  However, landuse=landfill isn't correct, so I still think we
> might need to coin a specific value like "aircraft_scrapyard."
>
> Ports, with cranes, are most certainly industrial areas:  OSM already
> agrees that areas of warehouses are industrial, although I have seen them
> as commercial, especially when they are public access "self storage"
> commercial entities.  And a port is an almost quintessentially industrial
> area (often with rail or other heavy transport infrastructure).  There
> doesn't need for "anything to be manufactured" in an area for it to be
> landuse=industrial:  I use this on fenced areas at the top of hills for
> man_made=water_tower, around electrical substations, around a gas
> distribution pipeline access point which comes to the surface with safety
> valves, etc.  These are not "manufacturing" places, but they most certainly
> are industrial land uses.
>
> SteveA
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