[Tagging] Junkyards? (was: landuse=depot?)

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Mon Jan 11 21:02:41 UTC 2021

The British Engish term for a junkyard seems to be a "scrapyard" (and
others use "wrecking yard", "car breakers" etc.):

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:00 PM Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>

> That's a good point: these aircraft boneyards are more like junkyards
> which are full of old motor vehicles which may be dismantled for spare
> parts or scrap.
> How are motor vehicle junkyards currently tagged?
> -- Joseph Eisenberg
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 9:22 AM stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:29 AM, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'd say, given the pretense they operate under, that they're depots,
>> but some
>> > object to landuse=depot.  So landuse=cemetery + religion=aviation. :)
>> I can't agree with this (the :) prompts me to think it's
>> tongue-in-cheek), nor do I like landuse=depot, as it's much too vague.  In
>> my opinion, landuse=depot could only be used if it had a richly-developed
>> set of sub-tag values (like depot=aircraft_scrapyard).  But that is
>> "reaching" and I feel strains the limits of both understandability and
>> shared identity of the entity / entities we attempt to describe in this
>> class of objects.  This work (tagging categorization) isn't always easy.
>> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 at 22:55, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > ATM, there are lots of places around the world where commercial
>> aircraft are sitting unused, but mothballed
>> > eg
>> https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/83eefe0f513237ffe4c4d34b704b98cf?width=1280
>> >
>> > They are not being scrapped for spare parts so it's not an industrial
>> area, they certainly aren't generating any revenue for the airlines that
>> own them, so they're not commercial, so what do you call the area?
>> Paul replies:
>> > In reality they are dumps.  But we're supposed to recycle rather than
>> > dump stuff, so we pretend there is a possibility they will be put back
>> > into service.
>> This, I can actually get behind.  "Dump" is technically true, although
>> "recycling center" (of a very, aviation-specialized nature) seems more
>> correct.  However, landuse=landfill isn't correct, so I still think we
>> might need to coin a specific value like "aircraft_scrapyard."
>> Ports, with cranes, are most certainly industrial areas:  OSM already
>> agrees that areas of warehouses are industrial, although I have seen them
>> as commercial, especially when they are public access "self storage"
>> commercial entities.  And a port is an almost quintessentially industrial
>> area (often with rail or other heavy transport infrastructure).  There
>> doesn't need for "anything to be manufactured" in an area for it to be
>> landuse=industrial:  I use this on fenced areas at the top of hills for
>> man_made=water_tower, around electrical substations, around a gas
>> distribution pipeline access point which comes to the surface with safety
>> valves, etc.  These are not "manufacturing" places, but they most certainly
>> are industrial land uses.
>> SteveA
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