[Tagging] Deprecate healthcare=centre

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Thu Jan 14 18:29:51 UTC 2021


> For healthcare=centre it is clear that the mapper had a physical facility
in mind which has some central characteristics,
while healthcare=yes just means anything related to healthcare, without
even being physical.

I don't think that's true. Can you provide an example of a feature tagged
as healtcare=yes without another primary feature tag which "isn't physical"?

If you mean that it is only temporary, then healthcare=centre used for
vaccination centres (see healthcare=vaccination_centre btw) is also being
used for convention centres or tents in a parking lot or at a show grounds
(fairgrounds) where normally nothing healthcare related would be found,
except now it is a vaccination site.

healthcare=sample_collection or healthcare=centre for testing sites for
covid-19 might also be nothing more than tents in a parking lot, right?

Now it's true that you might imagine healthcare=yes being added like a
"property" to another feature which means "this feature is
healthcare-related somehow", like how "tourism=yes" is used to mean "this
feature is for tourists", but I actually have never seen this done.

See for example all the features with healthcare=yes in England. They are
all clinics, or doctor's offices, or covid test sites, or lab etc:
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/12of - so all things that could be
"healthcare=facility" if we wanted to make another extremely generic tag.

-- Joseph Eisenberg

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 3:35 AM Tom Pfeifer <t.pfeifer at computer.org> wrote:

> On 14.01.2021 08:13, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> > So it sounds like there is no opposition to my original request: That we
> discourage the use of
> > healthcare=centre, since it does not have any particular meaning (beyond
> "a healthcare facility of
> > any kind"), and encourage mappers to use more specific tags like
> > hospital/clinic/doctors/dentist/laboratory/etc.
>
> This is incorrect! There were several voices saying that healthcare=centre
> has some merit, and more
> coming in.
>
> E.g. I said: Jan 10, 2021, 15:15 by t.pfeifer at computer.org <mailto:
> t.pfeifer at computer.org>:
> >         I see your point, but healthcare=centre has some merits. Thus
> I'd prefer refining to
> >         discouraging.
> >         What we could do is to write a disambiguation section that
> recommends to check if the
> >         facility falls
> >         in one of the categories that has more precise tagging, and use
> that instead.
>
> Just now, On 14.01.2021 12:09, Paul Allen wrote:
>  > Either we use healthcare=hospital for integrated care centres (which I
>  > am reluctant to do, because they're not hospitals as most people
>  > think of the term), or we call them clinics which have several
> sub-clinics,
>  > or we come up with something else, like healthcare=centre.
>
> I agree that we should head for being more specific, but there are two
> roads to choose from.
> - One road is to check if there is a more precise top-level tag (e.g.
> amenity=hospital etc)
> - the other is to specify the centre with appropriate sub-tagging, as it
> is currently the case
>    with German vaccination centres (healthcare:speciality=vaccination).
>
> Both methods are now described on the restructured wiki page. As for the
> comparison with
> healthcare=yes, it is untrue that this would mean the same. For
> healthcare=centre it is
> clear that the mapper had a physical facility in mind which has some
> central characteristics,
> while healthcare=yes just means anything related to healthcare, wthout
> even being physical.
>
> tom
>
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