[Tagging] Mapping nonexistent paths

[Seth Deegan]

Well Bert, I'll try to convince you why we really need them with my
proposal.

lectrician1 <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Lectrician1>


On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 8:19 AM Bert -Araali- Van Opstal <
bert.araali.afritastic at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On 23/03/2021 15:11, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
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> Mar 23, 2021, 12:57 by pelderson at gmail.com:
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> I tag lots of recreational routes as route relations. A route is a
> continuous chain of connected ways. In lots of places I need a linking way
> to keep the chain continuous, especially in hiking routes, because  there
> is no actual official link or path.
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> E.g. Often a cycleway is present for a stretch along a road. Then it just
> stops. Pedestrians and cyclists will continue on the side of the road. If
> the path is mapped, it will connect, at the end, to the centerline of the
> road with a virtual path, to provide a continuous chain for
> routing (including "manual routing" in route relations). This gets more
> complicated when footways and cycleways are both mapped separately, which
> is an increasing trend.
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> The route or way doesn't stop, the pavement stops, the separation stops.
> The route just continues.  Its perfectly OK to map those with our current
> tagging scheme. Why would you want to use link here ? A link is very
> distinguishable in it's function, use and most of the time appearance.
> It's not a "soft" link.
> As you say, if there is no clear separate "link" don't use link. But what
> does "virtual" add here ? Just use surface tagging if you feel the need to
> indicate the different surface of those small links.
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> You could say it's tagging for the router
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> I would say that "there is connection between X and Y" is actually mapping
> reality.
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> And it is often needed if people map footways/cycleways as separate
> geometries
> (and it is one of main drawbacks of doing it this way...)
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> , but it's standing practice to map for continuity. As soon as routers and
> the standard OSM track export can be reasonably expected to deal with
> non-continuous routes and route relations, i.e. finding a solution for
> missing links which adequately deals with trajectory, access and other
> characteristics of the terrain where a connection is needed, I am all for
> mapping just what there is.
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> Note that is extremely unlikely - there are often small gaps where there
> is an actual barrier and
> no passage! Distinguishing this two is not easy and trying to guess "there
> is connection here"
> would result in massive number of false positives.
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