[Tagging] Tagging piste:difficulty for track piste:type=nordic; skitour

Jaromír Mikeš mira.mikes at gmail.com
Wed May 12 04:30:14 UTC 2021

Hi Georg,

you are right ... tagging ski routes on relations (if possible) having
advantages but there are not just routes ... there are often also plenty of
just shortcuts between them.
It would also make sense for me to tag piste:type=* and piste:grooming=* on
relations but I think piste:difficulty=* would be more sufficient  use on
As a user you can see better which parts of the route have easy and
difficult sections and you can choose the right place for your activity.

best regards

pá 7. 5. 2021 v 23:48 odesílatel Georg <georg2016 at nurfuerspam.de> napsal:

> Hi Mikeš,
> > I am editing osm data ocasionally already several years, but still
> ...
> > I believe there is big number of users like me "beginner forever".
> for this user type, relations with JOSM or iD are IMHO too demanding, so
> it does not help much that they would solve the issue in a clean and
> sustainable manner. I guess an editor with dedicated GUI for piste
> relations could make it easy enough, but I do not know any.
> > For us would be something what Yves suggesting totally perfect.
> That is easy and fully sufficient for the single "snippets" of a piste,
> but you'd still need "something" to tell which snippets are making up
> one longer piste. For example, to compute overall length and elevation
> gain/loss of all "snippets", to estimate needed time, to route you along
> the whole thing instead of only some 100m and need to start routing
> again for next 100m, to easily send the whole route to someone, etc.
> That "something" is a relation. It contains a list of which "snippets"
> in total are the whole, long thing, and additional information about the
> whole thing, e.g. a number/reference, a name, a website etc. This also
> makes mapping of far distance pistes like
> https://www.xctrails.org/map/map.html?trail=60591&type=xc feasible, and
> also sending the whole thing as one single link ;)
> Maybe you understand better why routes were suggested to solve your
> issue (many routes re-using same physical path). If you're in the mood,
> have a look at relations, if you do not feel like, continue to "just"
> map the single "snippets" - this is very helpful because only when they
> exist in OSM, someone else can glue the "snippets" together to a
> relation. This team work produces a great result :)
> Cheers,
> Georg
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