[Tagging] V3 to V4 Mapillary image id migration

[osm at poppe.dev]

Hello Peter,

It's not a strange questions to ask, I might not have made that totally clear, so I'm using an example:

https://osm.org/way/863584696 has this tagging (for the relevant things you mentioned):

image	https://images.mapillary.com/sDvIogIJtrU1R-ehl2PfrA/thumb-2048.jpg
mapillary	https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ljbwf7vZYa8LZJaX8
description	https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ljbwf7vZYa8LZJaX8

So, the old 22-V3-ID (from image=*) is "sDvIogIJtrU1R-ehl2PfrA" which, when you open https://www.mapillary.com/app?pKey=sDvIogIJtrU1R-ehl2PfrA (I described that in point 1 in the task description, even though only mentioning numeric values there), this will redirect to https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1356231481407038.

So, the new tagging could be

image=https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ljbwf7vZYa8LZJaX8
mapillary=1356231481407038
description=<empty>

For additional confusion, the user put an Image from his own Google Photos collection into the data. I still have to discuss if this is even acceptable under OSM standards...

HTH!

Kai

On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 11:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Peter Neale nealepb at yahoo.co.uk, Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging at openstreetmap.org said

> Hi Kai, 
> 
> I am having a go at the MapRoulette challenge (and have managed to deal with
> a few cases already). 
> 
> However, I need to seek clarification (sorry if I am being a bit "hard of
> thinking", but I don't want to cause more problems than I cure) 
> 
> What should I do, if the Mapillary ID= field (or another field, such as
> "image=") contains a full URL, linking to the Mapillary image, and including
> a 22 character alphanumeric (v3) Key?   
> 
> Should I: 
> 
> a.  replace the URL with the 22 character v3 key and wait for your bot to
> find it and translate it to v4? 
> b.  go somewhere (where?) and look up the corresponding v4 key, placing that
> in the "Mapillary ID=* field"? 
> c.  Do something else?    
> 
>   
> Regards, 
> Peter 
> (aka PeterPan99) 
> 
> On Sunday, 31 October 2021, 13:43:54 GMT, Kai Michael Poppe  wrote: 
> 
> Hi Mateusz, 
> 
> Nope, those old values are gone. People have either deleted them or deleted
> their accounts all together with the option to remove their photos along with
> it. They are gone and can not be recovered by Mapillary. 
> 
> The manual MapRoulette fix is hoping that another person has a photo of the
> same object. 
> 
> Kai 
> 
> 31.10.2021 14:30:49 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging : 
> 
> Oct 30, 2021, 15:51 by me-osm-tagging at keepawayfromfire.co.uk: 
> 
> On Sat, 2021-10-30 at 11:52 +0200, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote: 
> 
> 2 - There are ~2.6k "old" values in the key, that match the correct 
> 
> pattern but that have since been deleted from Mapillary. Please give me 
> 
> your opinion on how the automated edit shall handle them: a) remove 
> 
> completely and don't care anymore b) remove the key and put more info 
> 
> in the changeset comment c) leave the old key even though it has no use 
> 
> anymore d) move to old:mapillary=* (or something like that) 
> 
> Possibly an option E. That would be to do option C, and set up a 
> 
> MapRoulette for people to manually go through and clean up those 
> 
> objects. There may other images already in Mapillary that correspond to 
> 
> the object, remove the mapillary=* if there isn't, or remove the whole 
> 
> OSM object if it is no longer relevant. 
> 
> It only really works if there are people motivated to do the 
> 
> MapRoulette. I'll try to find some time to help out on the current one 
> 
> [1], but the one I describe as option E would be significantly bigger. 
> 
> I would try MapRouelette, just in case someone would be interested. 
> 
> After some time remove them, but with clear description in edit 
> 
> (and also in an approved bot edit). 
> 
> old:mapillary=* is definitely bad idea, what is the point of linking
> something 
> 
> that will never be available again? 
> 
> PS Just to check: is it maybe caused by extra space or some other whitespace 
> 
> or other easily fixable issue? 
> 
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