[Tagging] cyclist profiles - was:Feature Proposal - RFC - value 'basic_network' - cycle_network?

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Tue Nov 30 10:52:21 UTC 2021


Do the "bicycle boulevards" have tale-telling signage? Are they chains of
ways with clear beginning and ending and arrows or symbols or identifying
shields in between, or more like a quality stamp for the ways, so that you
can count on it being suitable for a certain kind of bicycle?

Peter Elderson


Op di 30 nov. 2021 om 10:45 schreef Minh Nguyen <
minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us>:

> Vào lúc 00:00 2021-11-30, Volker Schmidt đã viết:
> > At the risk of repeating myself: can we acknowledge that having
> > different tagging for commuting cycle routes as opposed to touristic
> > cycle routes would be a big advantage for routing/navigation? And can we
> > acknowledge that de facto in many European countries and in the US the
> > existing cycle routes in OSM are mostly touristic? Hence can we agree on
> > a different tagging scheme for commuting cycle routes?
>
> In the U.S., people tend to distinguish between long-distance touring
> routes and everything else. U.S. Bicycle Routes and state bicycle routes
> are almost always touring routes, while local routes run the gamut from
> touring routes to park trails to bone fide commuter routes. Some local
> bike routes are widely regarded as commuter-friendly, such as the Monon
> Trail and Cultural Trail in Indianapolis, just by virtue of where they
> go. The different networks and their route shields reflect geographic
> scope and ownership, not purpose. Bicycle boulevards are explicitly
> designed to be useful to commuters, but that concept is orthogonal to
> numbered or named routes. [1]
>
> > In addition it may be a good idea to keep in mind that a similar
> > distinction would be useful also for motorised traffic.
>
> By analogy, most numbered highway routes are essentially functional for
> commuting or long-distance travel, but many U.S. states designate a
> parallel system of scenic routes. Depending on the state, a scenic route
> may be an attribute of a numbered highway route, or it may be a
> specially designated route, or it may be just a specially designated
> stretch of roadway without any routing aspect. The scenic=yes tag is
> inadequate because it can only be applied to roadways. [2] It's also
> incapable of distinguishing the various networks of national, state, and
> local scenic routes, each with distinct wayfinding signage.
>
> [1]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2021-November/063126.html
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:scenic
>
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