[Tagging] Key:smokefree; does it have a purpose, or is it redundant?

[Jeroen Hoek]

On 10-10-2021 23:05, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Am So., 10. Okt. 2021 um 22:51 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
> <tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>>:
> 
>     Note that usage is nearly nothing compared to smoking=no.
> 
>     Given lack of explanation, low usage I would consider it as
>     deprecated and not worth using, and worth replacing.
> 
> 
> I agree I would not bother documenting a tag that is used in such low
> numbers and has no clear meaning or is possibly a duplicate.

I get the impression this tag was documented because it was in the
original proposal, but the issues raised about it were never resolved
(rather than a tag someone created with a clear purpose).

> smokefree             no
> smoking               no
> smoking:outside       no

This looks like a mapper just tagging everything remotely applicable
just to be sure. It feels like a problem with the clarity of the
documentation (smoking=no seems to imply smoking:outside=no given the
existence of smoking=outside).

> A possible interpretation could be: "smokefree=*, whether you can expect smoke or not"
> as opposed to: smoking=* whether smoking is allowed

This makes sense. There would need be to be some documented criteria
mappers can use though — like a restaurant advertising itself as being
totally smoke free, or some national hospitality business network
handing out 'totally smoke free!' certificates with a nice logo — to
prevent it from being an arbitrarily assigned tag based on unclear
criteria (the current status I think).

There are some more interpretations on the talk-page of the original
abandoned proposal as well, but it seems to a documented and agreed upon
definition.

Thanks for the input both. I think I'll give it a week or so and edit
the smokefree page to point mappers to smoking=no instead, and document
that its meaning is currently unclear.

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