[Tagging] RFC: remove alphanumeric code visible in infoboxes at OSM Wiki linking to Wikidata

Jez Nicholson jez.nicholson at gmail.com
Sat Apr 2 07:28:50 UTC 2022


It may be a bad idea (but I respect your efforts to clean up the wiki).

a) I am pro Linked Open Data, so want links to other Open Data sites.

b) OSM has a close affinity with Wikidata (but I wouldn't want to be
reliant on it).

c) an entity page should frequently match to a known entity in Wikidata.
When it doesn't then it may be a sign to think again, or Wikidata is
wrong/missing something and we could improve it.

d) matching to entity concepts on Wikidata could make it machine-readable

On Fri, 1 Apr 2022, 17:41 Yves via Tagging, <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
wrote:

> Not a bad idea.
>
> Le 1 avril 2022 16:39:37 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
> tagging at openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
>>
>> I am submitting
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/remove_link_to_Wikidata_from_infoboxes
>> again for a RFC
>>
>> I propose to remove alphanumeric code visible in infoboxes at OSM Wiki
>> linking to Wikidata
>>
>> Infobox is a box on the side of the tag page on OSM Wiki, listing the
>> summary of the most important info. See for example Tag:tourism=hotel
>> at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dhotel
>>
>> Currently it contains at the bottom link to external site Wikidata or
>> request to add such link.
>>
>> See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_marked.png with
>> marked Wikidata link.
>>
>> I propose to remove this link from displayed infoboxes as as confusing,
>> unnecessary and not worth using infobox space.
>>
>> Infobox is only for the most important information.
>>
>> Link to sort-of-related Wikidata page is not an important information
>> and therefore should be removed.
>>
>> It is highly confusing and unclear, and OpenStreetMap in general and
>> OSM Wiki specifically already suffers from overwhelming complexity. We
>> do not need unnecessary and not needed complexity.
>>
>>
>>
>> Preemptive explanation
>>
>> This proposal is about removal of specific part of infobox on OSM Wiki
>> pages - which either links Wikidata item or requests editors to add it.
>> Data itself will not be lost.
>>
>>
>> * It has no impact on anything mapped
>> * It has no impact on wikidata=*, species:wikidata=*, brand:wikidata=*
>>   or any other tag in the OpenStreetMap database.
>> * It has no impact on data items, including P12 property.
>> * It will be still possible to add and use Wikidata links stored in
>>   data items
>> - even if it will be no longer possible on OSM Wiki
>> * It has no impact on linking relevant Wikipedia articles in "External
>>   links" sections
>> - this is often very useful
>> * It will not lead to any data loss, but will make Wikidata link far
>>   less prominent
>> * Wikidata is different site than sites such as OSM Wiki, taginfo, OSM
>>   Data items or Wikipedia.
>> * I tried to remove this without full scale proposal (this was also
>>   introduced without full scale proposal) but it got stuck
>>
>> Why RFC again?
>>
>>
>> I needed to write special verification script to ensure that I can copy
>> all info present only on OSM Wiki into data items to protect against
>> any data loss that would be caused otherwise.
>>
>> And then move such info.
>>
>> In case of a succcesful vote I would ensure that no data is lost.
>>
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