[Tagging] Hitching posts as a form of parking

[Joseph Eisenberg]

I agree, I also noticed this problem. As far as I know there is no such
object as an “animal hitch” or a “horse hitch”.

A trailer hitch is a solid knob attached to the rear end of a motor vehicle.

Otherwise a hitch is a type of knot in a rope.

I would use “hitching_post” for actual posts or poles which are designed
for tying up a horse.

Horses are much larger and stronger than small pet animals and require a
very sturdy structure.

There are also little rings attached to curbs (kerbs) in my city. Though I
have never seen them used for tying up horses, that was the original
intended use 100 years ago.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_rings_in_Portland,_Oregon

I would recommend using a totally different tag for the small rings. They
seem to usually be called “hitching rings” or “hitch rings”, rarely “horse
rings”

A hitching post serves as a small barrier like a barrier=bollard but a ring
does not.

We use different tags for barrier=rope and barrier=chain. There is no
limitation on making new tags for different things

- Joseph

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 12:43 AM Alan Mackie <aamackie at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022, 07:33 Minh Nguyen, <minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us>
> wrote:
>
>> Vào lúc 00:00 2022-08-29, Warin đã viết:
>> >
>> > On 29/8/22 09:22, Anne- Karoline Distel wrote:
>> >> Then we should probably scratch all reference to horses and just
>> >> mention all the included animals on the wiki page.
>> >>
>> >> Would amenity=hitching do the trick with sub-categories hitching=post,
>> >> hitching=ring or something like that?
>> >
>> >
>> > Hitching is also used for hitch hiking - where a person stands beside a
>> > road trying to obtain a lift.
>>
>> Yes, in fact, amenity=hitching probably could be mistaken for the
>> customary location of a slug line [1] or similar.
>>
>> > amenity=animal_hitch would clear that up..
>>
>> The word "hitch" does occur in "hitchhiking" and "hitching a ride", but
>> a hitch has nothing to do with either. "Hitch" actually means the
>> fastener used to mount a trailer or, alternatively, a horse-and-buggy
>> combination. So taken literally, animal=animal_hitch would be sort of
>> like tagging a bike rack as amenity=bicycle_lock or a truck parking as
>> amenity=hgv_articulated. Maybe I'm overthinking it though. :-D
>
>
> I thought these were all called hitches because that's the term for a type
> of knot that attaches a rope to a solid object like a pole. I have no
> coherent theory for hitching a ride though.
>
>
>>
>> I appreciate animal_hitch being more idiomatic than horse_parking, but
>> out of curiosity, what's the reason we're avoiding the term "hitching
>> post" in favor of a third tag, currently unused? Would it be OK to call
>> an editor preset "hitching post" in English, regardless of the
>> underlying raw tag value?
>>
>
> If we're only sticking to terms we've used before for "places to leave a
> thing that you travelled on" then it might be better to call it mooring
> like we do with piers. After all they're both using ropes most of the time.
> (No it don't think this is a good idea.)
>
> More seriously I think there is a reluctance to call something a post when
> in some  cases it's actually a ring on the side of a building or a rack or
> similar. Its a bit of a troll tag to say that the thing is a post and then
> override that with a subtag saying 'not really'. There's no reason why an
> editor couldn't have a preset for each variant if they want. I think they
> can all add multiple tags by default in the major editors.
>
> Bit of a random tangent: Are bike racks generally strong enough to attach
> a horse to? i.e.  if you were out riding would they be a useful thing to
> show on your horse-nav app?
>
> For context, I'm mostly interested in hitching posts because of mapping
>> in Amish Country, where some businesses have hitching posts for horses
>> alongside car parking. But I've also come across hitching posts used for
>> tourist carriages in New Orleans, maybe similar to the rings you
>> mentioned that have historical value. It's neat to see that there are
>> parallels all over for a feature that hadn't received much attention in
>> OSM before.
>
>
>> Incidentally, there's also tourism=trail_riding_rest, which is
>> documented as an area that would feature hitching posts in a rural
>> recreational context. [2] I have no idea if there's a better term for
>> those.
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slugging
>> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dtrail_riding_rest
>>
>> --
>> minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us
>>
>>
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