[Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

Dave F davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com
Fri Dec 30 19:48:37 UTC 2022


I think this inconsistency is bad for OSM.

Many ways don't have names, even if they have routes along them. They 
are just footpaths, & tracks etc.

This instance on giving them a name tag is fake. It'll mean sections 
with one route will have their name tag rendered, but where additions 
routes join there will be no rendering.

If multiple routes are of equal standing, but you insist on adding a 
name tag to the way, how do you decide which takes precedent?

This thread reinforces my belief there's a lack of understand of route 
relations' purpose.

DaveF

On 30/12/2022 19:15, Yves wrote:
> Remove the name of the way, put a name on each relations. Except if it 
> makes sense to keep the name also on the way for whatever reason you 
> see fit.
>
> Le 30 décembre 2022 18:06:12 GMT+01:00, Dave F via Tagging 
> <tagging at openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
>
>     What do you do if there are two routes?
>
>     DaveF
>
>     On 30/12/2022 02:19, brad wrote:
>>     +1
>>     If the only name is the route name I think it makes good sense to
>>     put it on the local way too, that's the name of the trail.
>>
>>     Brad
>>
>>     On 12/29/22 08:59, Zeke Farwell wrote:
>>>     I've heard the assertion that a way has no name but the route
>>>     that passes over it does many times.  While this is true in some
>>>     cases, in others it is not. Where the primary purpose of the way
>>>     is not for the route, this does make sense.  For example
>>>     mentioned by Jmapb where the Appalachian trail follows an
>>>     unnamed driveway or sidewalk.  In these cases, the primary
>>>     purpose is a driveway or sidewalk for local use, and the
>>>     Appalachian Trail just happens to follow it as well.  Here
>>>     putting the name Appalachian Trail on the way makes no sense. 
>>>     However, there are also dedicated sections of trail built first
>>>     and foremost to be a part of the Appalachian Trail and that have
>>>     no other name.  Omitting the name Appalachian Trail in a case
>>>     like that makes no sense to me.  That section of trail is indeed
>>>     called the Appalachian Trail.  The whole route is also called
>>>     the Appalachian Trail and that's ok.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 10:38 AM Jmapb <jmapb at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>         On 12/29/2022 10:13 AM, Zeke Farwell wrote:
>>>>         Yes, the way name tag should be the most local trail name. 
>>>>         However, sometimes there is no local trail name and the
>>>>         long distance route name is the only name.  In this case
>>>>         putting the long distance route name on the ways also makes
>>>>         sense.
>>>
>>>         I've been doing some mapping on the Appalachian Trail lately
>>>         and this appears to be the common practice, although the AT
>>>         is dominant enough that constituent trails sometimes lose
>>>         their local names over time.
>>>
>>>         Some mappers will take it a little too far and tag sections
>>>         of sidewalk and driveway that the AT follows with
>>>         name=Appalachian Trail (or even name=Appalachian National
>>>         Scenic Trail... IMO this is an official_name, and probably
>>>         only belongs on the route superrelation.)
>>>
>>>         It's common to see ref=AT as well, which is fine on trails
>>>         (even locally named ones) and perhaps ok on the sidewalks,
>>>         but adding it to a vehicular road seems iffy.
>>>
>>>         Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
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