[Tagging] Consensus switching away from mailinglists? Was: Time to split the list?

[bkil]

1. The only supported mode is treating the whole Discourse instance as
a single mailing list. I.e., you can't subscribe to a single category,
but you will receive all emails from everyone in every language, most
of which you probably don't speak. Or has this changed since the post?
2. No digest mode.
3. On most mailing lists, you receive the sender address as well so
you can start a private conversation with the original poster about
something confidential. Not sure whether Discourse does some kind of a
proxy to translate those to direct messages.
4. You need to register and log in on the site with JavaScript to
configure email notifications (and an OSM account, by the way, it
already works through OAuth 2).
5. Not sure whether it has settings for switching between HTML and
text mails or chopping off attachment and images.
6. A mailing list can preserve a bunch of metadata that is useful for
spam filtering, while such notifications are usually synthesized
according to a template.
7. email is federated - you can be present on multiple mailing lists
with the same email address, while you need to create a new account on
each individual centralized Discourse instance that you use.

By the way, you can unfollow a topic in your email client as well
(it's usually called Archive, Mute, Ignore, etc).

> “Mailing list mode” is a red herring, and will email you for every new post across the entirety of our Discourse instance, so don’t enable it, unless you want that of course!

https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008


On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 2:24 AM Robin Burek <robin.burek at gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Am 19.02.2022 um 01:38 schrieb bkil:
> > We talked about this already. The mail functionality of Discourse is
> > more akin to mail notifications, so it can never replace a mailing
> > list.
>
> Ähm... Why? So e.g. the mozilla discourse could handle Mail-Working too:
> [1]
> https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/how-do-i-use-discourse-via-email/15279#receive-emails-when-active-on-the-site
>
> > Some defining properties of a mailing list:
> >
> > subscribe by email,
> Currently, I also need to visit a website for OSM maillists. Subscribe
> by Mail is generally bad. V.a. since one has here in discourse yes then
> a connection to the OSM account, that would work even better :)
> See here: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
> I realy don't see any Problem, when I have to enter a mailinglist in
> lists.osm.org or I set a bookmark in a category.
> Especially I can set the level of observation. (Only the first message
> of a thread, all posts, etc....). How exactly this then works with the
> replies etc, I do not know. But it works apparently....
> > create a new topic by email,
> works with discourse, when you use a right config, see [1] "Create
> topics via email"
> > reply be email,
> Also [1] "Reply to topics via email"
> > follow all or select threads by email,
> Discourse can handle also special operations like
>   +1
> set watching a topic (when you only get the first message of a thread)
> set tracking a topic
> set unfollow a toppic.....
> > (search by email?!), but should definitely not involve having to do anything in a web browser.
>
> Then this is [@tagging] not a mailinglist ;) (your definition) or @talk
> or every else Maillist also not.
>
> Why this works for other discourse instances but not for us, I don't
> understand ad hoc...?
>
>
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