[Tagging] graves and relations

Minh Nguyen minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us
Mon Jan 24 19:59:09 UTC 2022


Vào lúc 04:10 2022-01-24, Anne-Karoline Distel đã viết:
> I mapped a gravestone yesterday, which had three names mentioned on it,
> only two of them are buried there. But one of the buried and the other
> guy have wikidata entries. So I couldn't use buried:wikidata for all of
> them. Because of the limited space in the inscription field, it cut off
> one of the names.
> 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9443012671

As with any *:wikidata key, there's a corresponding buried=* key that 
can be set to the names. But if you want to add metadata about each 
person, a relation does technically do a better job at capturing a 
one-to-many relationship, even if it seems superfluous in most cases 
I've seen.

If you're open to eventually adding each of the people to Wikidata, you 
might also be interested in the approach some mappers have taken with 
name etymologies. name:etymology:wikidata:missing=* is apparently a 
scratchpad for metadata about a Wikidata item that will eventually be 
created for the namesake, currently with over 1,500 occurrences across 
Europe.

By the way, you can go a step further than buried:wikidata=* by setting 
wikidata=* to a QID about the burial site itself. You can add an 
unlimited number of "inscription" statements [1], each up to 1,500 
characters long. [2] Then you can justify the item for inclusion by 
linking the people to it via a "place of burial" property. [3]

None of this should dissuade you from tagging buried:wikidata=*, but 
Wikidata could help you overcome the character limit on inscription=*. 
I've seen some inscriptions that would go over the limit even for a 
single person.

> I know there are way more important things to map than graves, but I'm
> trying to get people interested in mapping who are not that interested
> in house numbers or cycle tracks or whatever has a higher priority, but
> might be convinced to map historical things and THEN understand the
> potential of OSM. It's a long shot, I know.

I really appreciate your approach and hope it works for the people you 
reach out to. It's the same reason I've promoted mapping less 
"functional" things like flagpoles and name etymologies.

[1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1684
[2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Data_type#Monolingual_text
[3] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P119

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minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us






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