[Tagging] Deprecating phone=* in favor of more ambiguity in the database

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Sat Jan 29 06:09:59 UTC 2022




Jan 29, 2022, 01:08 by mail at marcos-martinez.net:

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> Hi Frederik,
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> a few comments:
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> And it was the second debate about the topic
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Not the second. (As I understand, It was the second by this specific person
after explicit request in moderation voice to stop recreating the topic)

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-August/thread.html#47668
August 2019 Thread

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-December/thread.html#49474 
December 2019 thread

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-May/thread.html#52379
May 2020 thread, over 50 messages

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-January/thread.html#63734 
current January 2022 thread

failed deprecation vote
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Discussions/tagging/contact:phone_or_phone

(anyone interested in crawling earlier discussions to find more?)

> I am rather tired of hearing the same old "oh but OSM should have a CLEAN data structure where everything is nicely put in a NAMESPACE" discussion again.
> -> I kindly ask you to refer to a place where I can read a basic statement, some kind of OSM "constitution", some formally approved paper or text that enlightens us regarding WHAT kind of database this is supposed to be to begin with. If it turns out there is none (maybe there is but I am not aware) then 
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1) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=ATYL
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Deprecated_features

2) please show me some formally approved paper or text that declares that only
formally approved paper or text count. You may discover that many, many things
are not actually depending on them

(and actually "who can ban people" is actually one of them due to executable code 
=="approved text" that decides who has moderation rights)

> this is - well - just your opinion, as good as any other. Everybody here has things we can be tired about.
>
In vast amount of cases there is no formally approved paper and still, some opinions
are closer to reality than another.
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