[Tagging] Deprecating phone=* in favor of more ambiguity in the database

[Andy Mabbett]

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 19:47, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
<tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> The warning was quite clear.

I disagree.

It was quoted as:

> As someone with admin access over this mailing list, I request that you
> do not keep bringing back proposals which were extensively debated
> beforehand and generally rejected. It wastes everyone's time.
>
> I don't particularly want to start banhammering people from the list
> but will do so if necessary.

The first paragraph is worded as no more than a request. The second
uses an idiom ("banhammering") that is unlikely to appear in most
dictionaries, nor to be understood by someone for whom English is
apparently not a first language, and is vague ("if necessary").

I have no issue with a poster being told that reposting a topic will
lead to escalating sanctions, but such a warning should be clear and
unambiguous.

Furthermore, a better first-step sanction - commonly used on other
mailing lists - would be to place the person concerned onto
moderation, so that their posts are reviewed and approved or rejected,
depending on their content. Only repeated transgressions from that
point, should result in a ban, and that ban should on the first
occasion either be conditional on an undertaking to desist from the
relevant behaviour, or time limited.

Of course, egregious personal abuse, threats, or spamming should
result in an instant and permanent ban.

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
https://pigsonthewing.org.uk