[Tagging] RFC: school:for (to map special education and other ambiguous cases)

Minh Nguyen minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us
Tue Jun 21 07:24:08 UTC 2022


Vào lúc 07:55 2022-06-20, Pieter Vander Vennet đã viết:
>       Inclusive schools
> 
> If a school is legally required to accept students with some disability 
> or extra care need, this does not change anything to the fact that this 
> is an *ad hoc* policy for this student. If it is called /Individual/ 
> Education/service plan, the ad-hoc nature is hidden in plain sight.
> 
>  From another perspective, having a school legally require to accept 
> these students makes the school still mainstream, which would again 
> indicate that /no/ special tag is needed.
> 
> Note that I did add a paragraph to make this explicit, but this was 
> already stated within the actual proposal.

Sounds good.

>       Eduction:*
> 
> Oh, F***. The "education:*" looks like yet another undocumented can of 
> worms...
> 
> I am however considering to move this proposal from *school:for* to 
> *education:for* as this will also enable this tagging on other 
> educational features such as kindergartens, universities, colleges, ...
> 
> Furthermore, *education:**facilities_for* might /also/ be good, but then 
> we lose the ability to indicate that normal-abled students are taught on 
> a school to. (There are some schools where  you /need to have/ a 
> diagnosis of something to be able to enter)

education:for=* was documented as part of the rejected Education 2.0 
proposal. [1] The proposal was rejected in part for tossing out a lot of 
common existing tags, and also for its verbosity, requiring mappers to 
use many subkeys to describe the most common scenarios. But your 
proposal won't necessarily meet the same fate as long as it takes a more 
cautious approach.

>       Normal people might never use this data!?

I'm unsure if this is a response to my earlier post, but this is very 
far from the point I was trying to make. To clarify, I suggesting that 
we'd need a more compelling use case to justify a tagging scheme for an 
inclusive school's *degree* of inclusiveness, whereas there's already a 
practical use for indicating dedicated facilities. On that point, we 
seem to agree.

[1] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Education_2.0#Education_for

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minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us






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