[Tagging] International and UN names

[Marc_marc]

Hello,

Le 15.03.22 à 11:43, Minh Nguyen a écrit :
> Vào lúc 02:09 2022-03-15, Jeroen Hoek đã viết:
>> Are there any cases where the UN names are missing from the name, 
>> int_name, alt_name, official_name tags and their language specific 
>> variants (e.g., name:en)?

> int_name=* is frequently used for multiple purposes:
> 
> * A UN/ISO 3166-1 country name in English, especially where it differs 
> from the common English name, as in "Czechia" or "Viet Nam". This isn't 
> limited to countries; there are ISO names for subnational divisions too.

imho it's wrong. like name, int_name isn't "name in English"

> * The English name of a multinational brand, such as Starbucks or 
> 7-Eleven. name:en would be more correct for this purpose.

In a french-speaking area, a Starbucks shop is called Starbucks
it isn't a int_name nor a name either, it's a brand=Starbucks
int_name=Starbucks is a tagging mistake

> * For world-famous cities and landmarks, an internationally recognizable 
> name for the feature in the same language as name, by analogy with 
> nat_name, reg_name, and loc_name.

unneeded but not wrong

> UN/ISO names would be useful for data consumers that want to avoid the 
> appearance of bias in a disputed area. (Whoever has de facto, 
> on-the-ground control in a dispute usually isn't a neutral party.)

the language used in the name tag is not about the language of the 
invader. if a Chinese took over the eiffel tower, it would still be 
name=Tour Effeil until the language of the invader is sufficiently 
imposed to consider that the name has changed

the 2 worries I see with name:UN is first that it breaks the logics of 
the tag (name:language) and then it's that it's unlimited. after UN,
why not the name according to the arab league ? the orthodox church ?
the sect of the sun god ?

do you have an example where name:UN:xx differs from name:xx (apart from 
tag errors of course) ?

Regards,
Marc