[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - historic

[Anne-Karoline Distel]

I don't know if people didn't get the message that I had to stop the
voting process, because I had to make a change to the proposal page, and
if they're not reading the headings on the page.

The opening of the voting booths is retracted and you can merrily
discuss away.

Martin can re-open the vote when he has the time.

Anne

On 03/11/2022 13:36, Sarah Hoffmann via Tagging wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 11:56:45AM +0000, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Martin is too busy the next couple of days, so with his permission I
>> have opened the voting booths for the key historic to be approved. The
>> minimum 2 weeks passed a couple of days ago, and the discussion has died
>> down, so hopefully everyone is ready to vote.
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Historic
> I'm not quite sure if that has been discussed yet with three places for
> discussion to chose from, but the proposal has a rather big flaw in my
> eyes:
>
> historic=* is one of these keys that is used as a primary key to define
> the object but also frequently seen as a property for other objects to
> mark them as historic. In contrast to other keys, there doesn't even
> seem to be any clear distinction for single values if they are meant to be
> used as a property or a main tag.
>
> Random example: historic=manor. About 77% of objects tagged with
> historic=manor have a building=* tag, which makes perfect sense. A manor
> is a building after all. So it looks like historic=manor is more of a
> property tag to a building. But what about the 23% other manors that are
> not tagged as building? Is a historic=manor without a builing=* tag
> meant to be used as a primary key?
>
> I would expect that an apporved wiki page to historic=* mentions this
> problem and gives some guidance to mappers and data users how to handle
> this situation.
>
> Sarah
>
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