[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

[Mateusz Konieczny]

There are also places with someone operating shop from their truck.

They would travel on assigned times through valleys and stop in from of each house.

They would sell (at very slight markup) products, allowing people to travel just 50m-200m
from their house rather than getting kilometres to shop in the village center.

In both cases I would be dubious about mapping their presence as it is extremely short
(and mapping such selling location in front of every single house in valleys would
be quite silly and misleading, I think)


Nov 7, 2022, 22:58 by graemefitz1 at gmail.com:

> Another version of sort of a street-vendor that I was wondering about is mobile food vans.
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> They drive into a site (building site, warehouse complex etc) at morning tea time, blow their horn, stay for 15-20 minutes, then leave & come back at lunch time.
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> Are they a street vendor?
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> Thanks
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> Graeme
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> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 05:57, Volker Schmidt <> voschix at gmail.com> > wrote:
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>> Just to make the list complete:
>> Around here (or at least in my city and nearby towns) we have regular open air markets with assigned locations for specific stalls.
>> Do we already have a mapping approach to that type of stalls? (I couldn't find one).
>> If we really don't have one already, it might be worth looking at how to map stalls in general as I cudl see a lot of similarities.  
>> I do part of my shopping in such markets, and I go to specific stalls for specific goods.
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>> Il giorno lun 7 nov 2022 alle ore 17:03 Joseph Eisenberg <>> joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>> > ha scritto:
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>>> I disagree with classing if all “street vendors” and one feature.
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>>> This proposal seems to assume conditions in contemporary Europe, where shops are usually located in permanent buildings due to climate conditions.
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>>> In many subtropical and tropical regions the air temperature is never cold, so a fully enclosed permanent building with walls and heating is not very necessary.
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>>> In this case many “street vendors” will have a tent and some storage which stays at a certain place, but is closed up at night. In that regards it is similar to a shop which is closed up with a metal gate at night, making it poorly visible except during opening hours.
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>>> But consider shop=kiosk - in North America these are often small stands on a sidewalk of pedestrian street or mall, with one person wgo sells newspapers, snacks etc to pedestrians, functioning quite like a common kind of street vendor, except that they are in a tiny shed. Is it really better to have a totally different way of tagging a similar business which instead uses a mobile push-cart or a tricycle instead?
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>>> In Southeast Asia, many of the businesses that Westerners might call street vendors sell newly cooked food, thus they are more like amenity=fast_food - and often an enclosed eatery will have only the kitchen indoors, with customers eating outside under a canopy.
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>>> Even here in Oregon, in the United States, we have small restaurants which are ambiguous under this proposal: they are “food carts” because they are small kitchens in trailers with wheels, which can be moved by attaching them to a truck. But usually they are semi-permanently installed on rented private land, with the landowner providing hook-ups for electricity and water, and usually covered seating with a canopy and picnic tables. So while they look similar to at more mobile “food truck” (which has its own engine and drivers seat, and thus can be moved every day) they are more permanent.
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>>> Rather than approving this proposal I would recommend more use of property tags. The existing street_vendor=yes tag is probably best, but building=no is also common (10k uses) and makes it clear that a feature is not a building. 
>>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=no
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>>> - Joseph Eisenberg
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>>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 9:31 PM >>> mapped at t-online.de>>>  <>>> mapped at t-online.de>>> > wrote:
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>>>> Hi all,
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>>>> I >>>> propose to deprecate street_vendor=* and to tag mappable street vendors with amenity=street_vendor + vending=* + opening_hours=* instead.
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>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_vendors
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>>>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
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>>>> Cheers,
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>>>> Freetz
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