[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum
Marc_marc
marc_marc at mailo.com
Mon Nov 14 07:43:10 UTC 2022
Le 13.11.22 à 23:51, Brian M. Sperlongano a écrit :
> The standard for a proposal, which purports to change tagging standards
> that affect *the entire community*, should be to advertise it as widely
> as possible.
of course, and the current proposal is not needed to "to advertise it as
widely as possible."
> it is entirely appropriate to say to a proposer "...and please also post
> a notice on the forum" to ensure maximum visibility and participation.
the current proposal is not about advice
> The new forums are attracting a global audience
here is the logical error: no the forum does not attract a global
audience, it may one day, now it is in test, half of the things do not
work and therefore let us leave time to have a functional forum
(including by email) in stead of trying to an attempts of discussion
where the current majority of the participants are not, with an aim of
satisfying those which do not produce for the moment much content level
proposal (because if it were the case, the forum would be already very
used for the discussion of the proposals of these people).
> with the new forum linked to your osm.org user account
empty argument, the mailinglist is already linked to my osm account
email, given that you only sign up once for 10 years, such a big change
to gain one click to sign up is absurd compared to the fragmentation of
discussions this "too-early" proposal will cause
> doesn't require special software
mailing need a email client (including in a browser)
forum need a browser (which probably needs to be recent, poorly usable
on phone, unusable in command line, difficult to interface if you want
to make personalized notifications, etc)
accessibility is certainly not in favour of the forums. (the blind
person on the osm-fr mailing list was using email with his braille
reader and not a forum)
> pick a winner if and when this occurs.
This is a win-lose vision, whereas by giving the forum time to mature,
there could be a merger of the 2 which would be win-win (and would
render the current proposal useless as the same content would be
accessible both by email and by a web interface, with unified instead
of fragmented discussions).
We can see it with the osm-fr experience: the immature forum has split
the community, far from federating
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