[Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Thu Nov 24 10:50:53 UTC 2022


On 24/11/22 20:37, Nathan Case wrote:
> On 24/11/2022 09:07, Warin wrote:
>> Some ships and boats don't move much... as they are part of museums ...
>
> Something that is part of a museum, and is genuinely permanently 
> secured, seems very different to an emergency response vehicle (which 
> a lifeboat is for all intents and purposes). I'd map planes at an air 
> and space museum but not ones at an airport terminal.
>
> I guess the trouble with lifeboats is that they can be stored on land 
> or they can be kept moored in the water. So it isn't quite as easy as 
> saying "map the building" as sometimes there won't be a building (for 
> the lifeboat, there normally is a building for the crew to change in 
> etc).
>

Past discussion on burger vans etc lead to the understanding that if 
something was, for the majority of the time, found at a certain location 
then OSM should map it.

HMS Belfast in London is mapped as building=ship, for all intents is it 
permanent (I'd expect it to be seldom away in a dry dock to get hull 
repairs). I have changed the Darling Harbor ships to reflect the London 
tagging.

I expect the lifeboats do get more regular use, for things like training 
at least.


>
> On 24/11/2022 09:00, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>> When the lifeboat is permanently moored at a particular location it 
>> is less transitory than a bus....so people can and do tag them. Not 
>> me necessarily, but other mappers.
>
> Being a little pedantic, a lifeboat that is "permanently moored" won't 
> serve much use as a lifeboat. Being less pedantic, mapping the 
> reserved mooring location could work, however, in that case, we should 
> be tagging it as a mooring spot rather than as a lifeboat itself. The 
> mooring location will remain even if the lifeboat is at sea.
>
>
> Nathan
>
>
> On 24/11/2022 09:07, Warin wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 24/11/22 11:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 09:29, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Why not both?
>>>
>>> Because a boat is a mobile feature, that we don't / can't map?
>>>
>>> e.g 
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=349559642#map=19/-27.42815/153.08582 
>>> - we don't try to map the last bus in the middle row as #632
>>
>>
>> Some ships and boats don't move much... as they are part of museums ...
>>
>> Way: HMAS Onslow (166230547) - mapped as a 'ship' but it is a 
>> submarine and they are boats.
>>
>> Way: HMAS Vampire (166230548)
>>
>>  Tags:
>>     "historic"="ship"
>>     "name"="HMAS Vampire"
>>     "ref"="D11"
>>     "seamark:name"="HMAS Vampire"
>>     "ship:type"="destroyer"
>>     "start_date"="1956"
>>     "tourism"="attraction"
>>     "wikidata"="Q721087"
>>     "wikipedia"="en:HMAS Vampire (D11)"
>>
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