[Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

[martianfreeloader]

There is a broad consensus that the language for OSM tags is British 
English. Using a non-BE word for a tag because it is used in Australia 
while a synonymous BE word exists, would be the same using a Xhosa, 
Portuguese or Korean word, just because it exists.

I know there are a few exceptions like sport=soccer, footway=sidewalk 
and sidewalk=*, but I think this kind of exceptions shouldn't be made 
without a very good reason.



On 05/10/2022 12:04, Warin wrote:
> 
> On 5/10/22 08:25, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>> Vào lúc 11:54 2022-10-04, Jass Kurn đã viết:
>>> I've just noticed there is a bubbler tag being promoted? Which 
>>> appears to be an American English term for a British English drinking 
>>> fountain. Why promote another term, and use an American English term. 
>>> What was wrong with calling a drinking fountain a drinking fountain?
>>
>> To clarify, "bubbler" is a distinctively regional term in Boston, 
>> Rhode Island, and Wisconsin. Elsewhere, it's either "drinking 
>> fountain" or "water fountain". [1]
> 
> 
> No. 'Bubbler' is also used in Australia. And possibly elsewhere is the 
> world.
> 
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> 
> In England it looks like a "Drinker Water Fountain" spurts water 
> upwards. There are some with elevated outlets described as water bottle 
> filler, but are at a height that is convenient to drink from with flow 
> rates to suit direct human consumption.
> 
> 
> Things that direct water downwards? And have flow rates greater than 
> convenient for human consumption? To me, these are 'taps'.
> 
> 
> The problem?
> 
> 
> 1) identify feature that provided drinkable water - fairly basic. At the 
> moment the common amenity=drinking_water does this .. or the secondary 
> tag of drinking_water=yes.
> 
> 
> 2) identify the physical properties and easy usability of the feature for;
> 
> 2a) humans to directly drink from. Consider a small child, the elderly. 
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Drinking_Fountain_-_The_Noun_Project.svg/278px-Drinking_Fountain_-_The_Noun_Project.svg.png 
> 
> 
> 2b) refilling glasses/cup/mugs/bottle from. In most instances there 
> would be some form of tap? 
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/France_road_sign_ID29.svg/337px-France_road_sign_ID29.svg.png 
> 
> 
> 2c) refiling large vessels from e.g. caravans, boats? A little google 
> searching for caravans leads me to believe that they use 'normal' taps, 
> probably because they are 'everywhere' and more likely to be 'free'.
> 
> 
> This leaves out wells, streams.. and other things?
> 
> 
> Possibly there is a need to avoid the words presently in use - tap, 
> bubbler, fountain, drinking_fountain?
> 
> So? A sub tag for amenity=drinking_water?
> 
> water_direction=upwards/downwards ? Humm should consider stationary 
> sources, and streams and pools  - a bowel etc? Humm any ideas
> 
> 
> It would be nice to indicate the flow rate too .. but that will cause 
> too many arguments .. so lets just work on the above?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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