[Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

Davidoskky davidoskky at yahoo.it
Thu Oct 6 11:54:40 UTC 2022


> I think the above should depreciate amenity=drinking_water as it is 
> more generic. 
I do like this approach, however it forces people to actually describe 
several features when entering data in the database rather than just 
writing "here you can drink".

While I might like this, I think this is a lost cause unless we are able 
to define a way to indicate all the other elements that should be used.


At this point what would be the main tag? amenity=water could work, but 
it's quite misleading. If I'm tagging a well I feel that the main tag 
should describe that it is a well, same for drinking fountains springs 
and so on.

Thus, relegating drinking_water to a secondary tag works well only after 
all the main tags have been clearly defined.


I'm not sure where this whole discussion is going, people don't even 
agree on the specific dialect to use. I think that the wording is quite 
irrelevant and that we should focus on the structure.


> water_direction=up/down/horizontal/upwards 
> water:for=dog/cats/animals/humans/hose/trough/couplings:diameters=*
> tap=yes/no tap:actuator=leaver/handle/light_beam/*
> structure:style=nasone/* 

I do like all the proposals you make.

I feel we should find a way to describe a man made object used to 
deliver water. Wells, fountains, drinking fountains, bottle fillers, 
sinks and so on.


Currently we have:

man_made=water_well

amenity=fountain

amenity=water_point

man_made=water_tap

man_made=drinking_fountain

amenity=watering_place


Some of these tags overlap very much.

I feel that the tag for wells works well (!).

On the other point there's a big issue with fountains: amenity=fountain 
is used both to indicate decorative fountains and service ones.

man_made=drinking_fountain duplicates the secondary value fountain=drinking.

man_made=water_tap describes any generic water distribution system which 
has a tap, thus it overlaps with many secondary values of 
amenity=fountain and with man_made=drinking_fountain. I feel that 
man_made=water_tap is quite useless in this regard and might very well 
be substituted for a tap=yes secondary value.

amenity=watering_place describes both natural and artificial 
places/objects according to its use and not to what it actually is.


With all these tags, there is still no way to properly describe a place 
with a pipe that provides water which is not drinkable and not decorative.

For example a public tap where you can wash clothes, which I guess you 
could tag as amenity=fountain, drinking_water=no but that does not 
differentiate it from a decorative fountain. 
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I feel the first thing to decide is whether amenity=fountain should be 
used both for decorative fountains and service fountains (as it is now) 
or not and then either define some sensible secondary values of 
fountain=* or decide which other main tags should be used to describe 
all these other things.

I personally would prefer using fountain=* to describe all these things, 
but I have no strong feelings about it.



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