[Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

Minh Nguyen minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us
Sat Oct 8 22:01:57 UTC 2022


Vào lúc 04:22 2022-10-08, ael via Tagging đã viết:
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2022 at 09:52:46AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>
>> sent from a phone
>>
>>> On 8 Oct 2022, at 07:55, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Example Tom Bass Wall Fountain, Sydney, Australia 1963. Nicknamed "The Urinal" for obvious reasons!
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>>
>> according to a british mapper, this is not a fountain but a water feature 🤷‍♂️
> 
> Yep. Definitely not a fountain. As for what it is, some sort of
> artistic installation. And water feature doesn't seem a bad description
> among others for want of a better term.
> 
> But I was just trying to feed in that calling these things fountains is
> not natural in everyday British English. Feel free to ignore.
> The one term which is natural, drinking_fountain, I gather at least
> one person wants to deprecate.

Interesting, I wonder if British English might sometimes use the term 
"fountain" more loosely, even if it has a stricter formal meaning. Here 
in the U.S., upward motion is certainly characteristic of fountains, but 
artists have a tendency to bend the rules. My favorites are the ones 
that look like waterfalls:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KellerFountainSummer2010.JPG

In fact, countless "fountains" are technically statues. Since the 
fountain already rises above the streetscape, it creates the same effect 
without pointing a jet of water directly upwards:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Genius_of_Water_-_panoramio.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bethesda_Fountain_at_Central_Park,_New_York_City_-_panoramio.jpg

Maybe this concept isn't completely foreign to the UK, given the names 
of some fountains in England?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Steble_Fountain_in_action_-_geograph.org.uk_-_720965.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Diana_Fountain_in_Bushy_Park_-_panoramio.jpg

If a 2D renderer were to depict such installations with ⛲️ instead of 
🚿, I probably wouldn't be concerned about users getting confused. But a 
3D renderer probably would need more specificity regardless of the 
top-level tag. It cracks me up to see F4Map depict the statue-fountains 
above as a very wet Venus de Milo, thanks to dual tagging with 
monument=statue.

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minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us






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