[Tagging] Lyft and nameless sectioning in OSM

[stevea]

Shawn has it right as I see it, too, so I think he says it for all of us.

Let's all say "there are regionalisms" and leave it at that (for now).  Tags can (and do) express those.  It's complicated, not terribly too much.

And we tighten it up across stores (convenience or otherwise) as nodes and landuse as polygons.  Yes.  As we see it, as necessary.

A lot going on here.

> On Oct 11, 2022, at 6:27 PM, Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn at rushpost.com> wrote:
> 
> On 10/11/22 19:45, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>> None of this is particularly relevant to Houston, but I don't think
>> there's any precedent or mechanism for formally deprecating a broadly
>> defined tag in only the places that satisfy certain criteria.
> 
> Houston has no zoning (the largest city in the US to not be zoned). Deed restrictions are used to get some of the same results accomplished by zoning in other cities. Note this applies only to Houston proper, not suburbs (Tiki Island, Pleak, and Jersey Village are known by me to be zoned, and there are probably others.)
> 
> That said, many areas will still qualify as a de facto residential, commercial, retail, or industrial area, and so I avoid deleting landuse=* unless it is clearly wrong/outdated.
> 
>> If, like me, you want to see fewer unnamed landuse areas in your backyard, map more named landuse areas corresponding to retail and residential developments. These areas not only reduce the pressure to
>> "fill in" the map visually but also add information about the shape
>> of these developments that's often difficult to obtain from other map
>> services.
> 
> What I'd like to see less of is the use of dubious tag combinations like this:
> 
> landuse=retail
> amenity=fuel
> shop=convenience
> name=Exxon
> 
> or whatever the brand might be. First, the convenience store and fuel should be separately tagged; I tag the fuel canopy (or an area near the pumps if no canopy)  as being the fuel station, and the building as the convenience store (which also gets the address data if  known). Convenience stores may be inside a landuse area, but shouldn't be tagged on the same way as a landuse area as I understand it.

Yup; +1.