[Tagging] Lyft and nameless sectioning in OSM

Greg Troxel gdt at lexort.com
Thu Oct 13 10:48:37 UTC 2022


Nick Santos <nick at nicksantos.com> writes:

> I'd say if you think it's going to work, build it and show the community
> examples of where it works well and where it doesn't. Discussing the
> hypothetical makes us all revert to our own assumptions rather than looking
> at a real comparison. I'm personally skeptical that a model will work very
> well, because right now, land use tagging appears to fill in for when we're
> missing more detail in the DB already, which suggests to me that to take
> the more detailed data and try to infer the general case is something the
> dataset isn't ready for except, maybe, in some areas.

Well said.  I don't have the energy to continue to engage, but I was
thinking this too.

Don't just build it, but build it, take OSM and remove landuse tags and
then-empty objects, generate the landuse polygons you think can be
created "automatically", and difference them, and then for those that
don't map, post a dataset and people can look at the differences.

> But again, I'm not saying don't build it - just expect serious scrutiny of
> its outputs. I also don't think the existence of a hypothetical better
> method is a reason for others to stop doing it their own way, assuming both
> result in acceptable data - OSM is a project of people adding the edits
> they're willing and able to edit. The methodology is only of concern if the
> result is bad, and I shared my opinion on that above.

Agreed.
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