[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - yarn shops

Nate Wessel nate at natewessel.com
Tue Jan 3 14:16:51 UTC 2023


shop=wool <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dwool> ... this 
seems like almost exactly what I'm proposing. And is used much more 
frequently <https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1pEi> than shop=yarn.

And yet for me, I never even thought to search for this. And the word 
'yarn' doesn't actually appear anywhere on the page or it would have 
shown up in my searches of the wiki.

It's also not referenced anywhere on the shop=sewing 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsewing> page, which 
explicitly mentions knitting needles, etc. Nor on the shop=fabric 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfabric> nor 
shop=haberdashery 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ashop%3Dhaberdashery> pages.

It seems like maybe the real problem here is that the various tags 
related to the "fibre-arts" aren't all that well documented yet and not 
at all well cross-referenced. Would anyone object to an attempt to 
better cross-reference and distinguish these categories?

In particular it seems to me like shop=wool should encompass things like 
knitting needles, and specify that it would be selling (wool) yarn, and 
not wool fabric as that would fall under shop=fabric.

I would also want to drop references to yarn and knitting needles from 
shop=sewing, pointing to shop=wool for that.

It seems like shop=haberdashery and shop=sewing need some further 
discussion, as they seem almost impossible to distinguish from the wiki 
documentation. Personally, I always thought of a haberdashery as a hat 
shop?? I somehow hadn't even heard of that tag before this discussion.

Best,

Nate Wessel
Cartographer, Planner, Transport Nerd
NateWessel.com <https://www.natewessel.com>

On 2023-01-03 07:51, Philip Barnes wrote:
> Shops selling wool are commonly referred to as wool shops so why not 
> shop=wool?
>
> Yarn doesn't seem very intuitive to me as a native English speaker.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
> On 2 January 2023 17:14:28 GMT, Nate Wessel <nate at natewessel.com> wrote:
>
>     Howdy y'all,
>
>     I am proposing to make official a tag that is already in use to
>     some degree, *shop=yarn*, for shops that primarily sell yarn and
>     other knitting/crochet supplies. Currently the wiki has these
>     falling under shop=sewing. As a long-time sewer who has recently
>     taken up knitting, I can say with confidence that these are very
>     different things; though sometimes larger stores will sell both.
>
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/yarn_shops
>
>     Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Nate Wessel
>     Cartographer, Planner, Transport Nerd
>     NateWessel.com <https://www.natewessel.com>
>
>
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