[Tagging] barrows and tumuli

Philip Barnes phil at trigpoint.me.uk
Wed Jan 18 18:40:43 UTC 2023


I am using local knowledge here, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soulton_Long_Barrow

It has been featured on Country File so known outside The Shire.

Phil (trigpoint)

On 18 January 2023 17:55:57 GMT, Anne-Karoline Distel <annekadistel at web.de> wrote:
>Well, yes, they're not historic; they're prehistoric. But we tend to map
>those features with the historic tag nonetheless.
>
>I don't understand why you say that they're not archaeological, when
>they're written about by archaeologists and part of archaeological surveys.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_barrow
>
>Like many British and Irish barrows (and maybe other areas, but I
>haven't looked at those in much detail), they are man_made=cairn,
>though, just under a layer of soil.
>
>Anne
>
>On 18/01/2023 17:04, Philip Barnes wrote:
>> Long barrows are not always archeological or even historic.
>> 
>> Maybe they could be man_made=long_barrow.
>> 
>> Phil (trigpoint)
>> 
>> On 18 January 2023 15:48:42 GMT, Anne-Karoline Distel
>> <annekadistel at web.de> wrote:
>> 
>>     The last couple of days, I've been looking at tumuli/ barrows on the
>>     map, because it turns out, it's the same. I have added that information
>>     to the wiki
>>     (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:archaeological_site%3Dtumulus).
>>     In Ireland and the UK, I've also tried to tidy up the tags, so there are
>>     now no archaeological_site=barrow/ ring-barrow/ round_barrow etc.
>> 
>>     I've also drawn diagrams of the different types of tumuli and added a
>>     table on the above mentioned tumulus wiki page which also shows possible
>>     redundant tags.
>> 
>>     However, long barrow is documented as archaeological_site=megalith +
>>     megalith_type=long_barrow. They should all fall into the same hierarchy.
>>     This is really my question - should long barrows not also be tagged as
>>     archaeological_site=tumulus + tumulus=long_barrow?
>> 
>>     Even when all tumuli are megaliths, but archaeological_site=megalith +
>>     megalith_type=tumulus + tumulus=long_barrow is a bit of an overkill, IMHO.
>> 
>>     Anne
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