[Tagging] Coach parking

[Anne-Karoline Distel]

capacity:coach depends entirely on the length/ size of the vehicle.

This is the one that started the conversation:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/608428074 If you look at the
mapillary, there is a left arrow for car parking and a right arrow for
"bus park".

This one is closer to home: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1180680774
The seasonality is marked on the road, as far as I recall.

I would also think that public transport have depots (landuse=depot?)
for off-duty parking.

As far as I can ascertain, in Ireland "bus" and "coach" are both used
for tourist busses, posher people tend to use "coach", methinks. But I'm
not a native speaker. Tourists take public transport, too, anyway.

Anne

On 09/06/2023 17:19, Greg Troxel wrote:
> Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> writes:
>
>> UK native here...
>>
>> Looking at the vehicles, a bus would be more spartan, set up for fare
>> collection, doors for speedy un/loading etc whereas a coach would
>> almost always have only a single door (although some have more), be
>> more luxurious, be equipped with seat belts etc. In bus-lover-land
>> there are even so-called "Dual Purpose" vehicles which are in between
>> being a bus and a coach.
>>
>> Looking at the usage of the vehicles, a bus would typically be used on
>> scheduled services with a predefined timetable and (mostly) predefined
>> stops, whereas a coach would often be used on "private hire"
>> arrangements for one-off journeys.
>>
>> Having said that, there are many scheduled long-distance (city to
>> city) services using coaches, and buses can also be used for private
>> hire. There is also a grey area of express services with multiple
>> stops along a predetermined route (I am thinking of the old Green Line
>> network for example).
>>
>>  From the perspective of traffic law, a "Bus Lane" may be restricted to
>> scheduled services by a licensed operator. Even empty buses returning
>> to the depot may not be allowed (as it is not on "active
>> service"). Other bus lanes might also allow private hire vehicles, it
>> depends on the specific legislation.
>>
>> My main point being that the way the vehicle is constructed may not be
>> enough to determine whether it can use a bus lane or use a coach
>> parking area - the circumstances of its use may also be significant.
> Thanks.  That is complicated, and it's interesting how close the
> bus/coach distinction is to US usage.
>
> For this case, I  think Anne might be asking about a parking lot
> (carpark) where buses/coaches can park,  such as at a tourist attraction
> type place, where there is either a lot for cars and one for buses, or
> one with sections.
>
> I would expect the fare/scheduled/etc. city buses would not park out in
> the world, and there would be some sort of depot that is in an
> industrial area, for only the buses belonging to that agency.
>
> so to me it sounds like amenity=coach_parking or capacity:coach is
> reasonable, leaving the access rules fuzzy  (but no fuzzier than they
> are in general)