[Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks
Niels Elgaard Larsen
elgaard at agol.dk
Sun Sep 10 15:20:00 UTC 2023
Volker Schmidt:
> Be careful: oneway=* is a legal access tag, only valid for vehicles, not for pedestrians.
We do have a lot of highway=footway,oneway=yes
at museums, train stations, airports, zoos, etc.
Which is useful for routers.
The wiki does mention vehicles. It may not always be a very legal restriction. And in
many cases it could be considered false oneway footways. E.g., a museum might have a
signed direction thorough the exhibition, but usually you can still wander back and
forth a bit (not at the crown jewels).
Still, if think it makes sense.
E.g.,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/368800221
Although, using an OSM router here is already cheating.
oneway:foot and foot:backward is already documented in the wiki and could be used on
mtb paths.
I see that we have 4 oneway=recommended
> On Sat, 9 Sep 2023, 07:05 Andrew Harvey, <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com
> <mailto:andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I have previously proposed the tag path=mtb
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Tag:path%3Dmtb
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Tag:path%3Dmtb> as a way to say
> it's a purpose built mountain biking track (which if it has features like jumps,
> skinnies, berms etc would make it such). Unfortunately the proposal could not
> gain a consistent consensus about the best way to tag purpose built mountain
> biking tracks/trails and didn't develop further, so while it won't impact
> rendering, you can still use this proposed tag.
>
> On Sat, 9 Sept 2023 at 03:09, Bryce Nesbitt <bryce2 at obviously.com
> <mailto:bryce2 at obviously.com>> wrote:
>
>
> I recently went on a hike, guided only by OSMAnd. We ended up planning a route
> that took us uphill on what turned out to be a long series of one
> way downhill mountain bike flow tracks.
>
> I have no problem with the flow track: just had it been clearly delineated we
> would have planned a different route more suited to hiking.
> But I was left without clear tagging ideas.
>
>
>
>
> One of the trails was
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/593945914#map=19/37.99250/-122.50667
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/593945914#map=19/37.99250/-122.50667>
> highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway?uselang=en> path
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=path?uselang=en>
> horse <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:horse?uselang=en> no
> name <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name?uselang=en> Bunny
> oneway:bicycle
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway:bicycle?uselang=en> yes
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:oneway:bicycle=yes?uselang=en>
> surface <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface?uselang=en> dirt
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:surface=dirt?uselang=en>
>
> With a clear direction, as it has jumps that can only be completed in a
> single direction, and is all but impossible to cycle the "wrong way" on.
>
>
>
>
> Is this trail tagged the best that can be?
>
> Is there a way to better hint to rendering that this should look different
> from a "standard" hiking trail, perhaps tagged:
> highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway?uselang=en> path
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=path?uselang=en>
> name Hiking Trail
> surface dirt
> bicycle <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway:bicycle?uselang=en>
> permissive
>
>
>
>
> I see that even /OpenCyclemap /does not draw directional arrows on the
> "Bunny" trail or other oneway:bicycle=yes routes.
>
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