[Tagging] Postal verses locational addresses

Jez Nicholson jez.nicholson at gmail.com
Wed Sep 13 17:21:43 UTC 2023


IMHO OSM addresses are physical, 'locational' addresses and it is the
anomalous postal addresses that need to have their own scheme....if at all.

On Wed, 13 Sep 2023, 17:33 Philip Barnes, <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On 12 September 2023 10:28:11 CEST, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >On 12/9/23 03:57, Greg Troxel wrote:
> >> The fundamental issue is that there are postal addresses and what might
> >> be called "civil addresses" or "physical addresses" ('locational' I
> >> understand but is not normal English usage).
> >I could not think of a better descriptive 'word' for what I wanted to
> express.
> >>   In the US, we also have
> >> "911 dispatchable location" which is all about getting there physically
> >> and is US-bureaucatic-speak.
> >>
> >> OSM has decided to tag postal addresses on address points.   I find this
> >> an odd choice, and I think it really doesn't mean this, as companies
> >> that use PO boxes are not tagged that way, but with the street address.
> >>
> >> The only fix I think of is to have a separate set of tags paddr: and a
> >> rule that those should be set if they are different from the addr: tags
> >> (which are postal).  except postcode, which is a postal-only.
> >
> >
> >Err the zip/postcode in the UK is a (small) physical area. It is used by
> truck delivery drivers to enter into their GPS to find a route to the
> delivery point. See
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postcodes_in_the_United_Kingdom
> >
> >Possibly the OSM addr thinking is based on the UK where the postal
> address is the physical location?There maybe exceptions to this in the UK
> too?
> >
> The company I work for has a PO box meaning the postcode is not the actual
> location.
>
> Visitors often arrive having put the postcode into their satnav and have
> had a detour via the Royal Mail sorting office several miles away.
>
> Putting the company name into an  OSM based router will take you straight
> there.
>
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