[Tagging] Difference between "yes" and "designated" in access tags (was: Re: How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway)

[Andy Townsend]

On 29/04/2024 16:22, Jass Kurn wrote:
>
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 10:03, Peter Neale via Tagging 
> <tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>     It is "bicycles=yes" and not "bicycles=designated" because, for a
>     bridleway https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbridleway
>     "Cyclists also have a right, unless the local authority makes
>     orders to the contrary.... ...The local authority is not obliged
>     to ensure suitability for bicycles, unlike for foot or horse users."#
>
>
> Disagree with that, I always map a Public Bridleway as 
> bicycle=designated. Cyclists have a statutory right to use these ways, 
> which should be meaning behind the designated. The fact there is no 
> requirement to maintain a Public Bridleway to a standard acceptable to 
> all cyclists, does not impact on the right to use the way. It's a 
> secondary matter that does not fall under "access". Or looking at this 
> in another way. The fact a Public Footpath does not have to meet 
> standards that would allow ALL pedestrians to use them, but does not 
> mean a public footpath should be tagged foot=yes


In terms of access rights*, I've always thought that (in England and 
Wales**) "yes" and "designated" mean both "a legal right to access", as 
opposed to "permissive" that means "you can go there, but that right can 
be removed by the landowner whenever they wish".  What would you say the 
difference between "yes" and "designated" are?

Best Regards,

Andy

* ignoring the use of "designated" on "highway=path" etc. where it is 
used to say that a path is really a footway or a cycleway.

** and also ignoring countries such as e.g. Scotland, Sweden, Finland et 
al where you have a legal right of access on foot across most areas, 
with some caveats.

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