[Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

[Anne-Karoline Distel]

Hi,

yes, I think paving_stones is right, but I'm fairly convinced that it
was built wiggly on purpose, otherwise the politician wouldn't have had
a special word for it. I couldn't find anything on wikipedia about the
topic, unfortunately.

Cycling across is not a problem, if you don't mind the sound. I don't
think the whole width of the street is paved wiggly, just enough to let
the water drain, so skaters could use it on the sides.

I wasn't too concerned about the mapping for traffic users of the
street, more for flood prevention analysis, but maybe that's just not
within the scope yet.

Anne

On 21/02/2024 09:50, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> I also would go with surface=paving_stones - and maybe add also
> smoothness tag,
> and agree with Fernando
>
>
> Feb 21, 2024, 01:47 by fernando.trebien at gmail.com:
>
>     I think they are surface=paving_stones because:
>     - the stones are very flat on top
>     - it seems that the objective was to arrange them snugly, although
>     the fit may have deteriorated a little
>     - it seems pretty easy to ride a bike there, but not skate, which
>     is what one generally expects from surface=paving_stones;
>     surface=sett is a little more difficult for cycling because the
>     stones are less flat and the surface as a whole is also less flat
>
>     I think surface=sett is usually more like this:
>     https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.345215550023994&lng=-6.265817519990492&z=19.230259053537715&pKey=516305962724410&focus=photo&x=0.5077006613416395&y=0.5849426144442357&zoom=0
>     <https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.345215550023994&lng=-6.265817519990492&z=19.230259053537715&pKey=516305962724410&focus=photo&x=0.5077006613416395&y=0.5849426144442357&zoom=0>
>
>     On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 at 15:55, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging
>     <tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>
>         That's the best I can do for now:
>         https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=52.651926666667&lng=-7.2515966666667&z=17&pKey=1685817985195902&focus=photo&x=0.22772882642716127&y=0.968169011381621&zoom=0
>         <https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=52.651926666667&lng=-7.2515966666667&z=17&pKey=1685817985195902&focus=photo&x=0.22772882642716127&y=0.968169011381621&zoom=0>
>         You can kind of see the gaps between the stones.
>
>         On 17/02/2024 17:46, Åbn wrote:
>>         I think you should provide a picture.
>>
>>
>>         On February 17, 2024 5:19:06 PM UTC, Anne-Karoline Distel via
>>         Tagging <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>>         <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>
>>             I'm not sure I'm understanding the differences between
>>             surface=sett and surface=paved or if what I'm trying to
>>             map is covered by either. Where I live, there are some
>>             streets that are paved, but the stones aren't set firmly,
>>             so they wobble a bit when you drive/ cycle over them. It
>>             is perfectly safe, but it allows rainwater to drain
>>             quicker, at least I think that is the reason for this
>>             type of paving. It sounds a bit like a xylophone (well,
>>             lithophone, I guess), when going over them. Considering
>>             climate change and the higher likelihood of flooding etc,
>>             it would be important to map the difference between paved
>>             streets that don't allow for quick drainage and these
>>             loosely paved streets. There is probably some technical
>>             term for it. So, in short: Do we have a tagging scheme
>>             for those or not? Anne
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