[Tagging] clootie trees/ rag trees
Philip Barnes
phil at trigpoint.me.uk
Mon Mar 4 20:37:32 UTC 2024
This reminded me of The Arbor Tree in Aston-on-Clun.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/436200174
It is decorated annually on Oak Apple Day (29th May). It is decorated
with flags these days but it goes a log way back so I assume it was
simpler cloths at one time.
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5642115
Phil (trigpoint)
On Sun, 2024-03-03 at 20:48 +0000, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging
wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> does anyone have any opinions about how to map what is called
> clootie/ cloughtie/ cloutie trees in Scotland and rag trees or
> raggedy bushes in Ireland? I have used place_of_worship=rag_tree (to
> avoid the many different spellings) in combination with natural=tree,
> but there is also a category on Wikimedia called "Prayer trees". But
> for some prayer trees, you stick coins in the bark instead of tying
> rags or ribbons (or other votive offerings) to the branches, so I
> think rag trees should be mapped different to coin ones. They're not
> historic, but still very much in use in Ireland, the UK (by Neo-
> Pagans and Christians alike), and I believe there are other cultures
> like Hinduism who use them.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clootie_well
>
> To my knowledge, "clootie tree" is not used in Ireland at all and
> wasn't in the past either (only in the wikimedia category). In
> Ireland, the tree is also usually not necessarily connected to a
> well. There is one at the Hill of Tara, for example.
>
> If you like fairy tales, I think there is one in Cinderella, at least
> in the Brothers Grimm version. As far as I remember, the dress for
> the ball appeared in the tree.
>
> Anne aka b-unicycling
>
>
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