<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2013-09-27 13:51, André Pirard wrote
:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:5245713B.8090703@gmail.com" type="cite">
<meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2013-09-17 21:49, Rob Nickerson
wrote :<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAK4yQTmgB6153uy_5qo2w2V9bE9uX9Q38M1OVnVomwiCcNMuaw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><br>
</div>
Daniel wrote:<br>
<div>
<pre>> - Make it easier to edit the wiki. </pre>
<br>
</div>
<div>Hi Daniel,<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I agree - the wiki can be hard to edit if you have never
done this before. This is why I requested a visual editor
(that is now used by Wikipedia) to be added. Unfortunately
this requires an update to the version of MediaWiki that we
use so is not a simple case of installing a plug-in.
Hopefully it will be picked up sooner rather than later but
in a volunteer based project patience is essential :-)<br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
I tried that editor and it's really not worth it. It's not
available on en.wikipedia (shame?) but only as beta testing for
other languages. It looks like a very basic, unhandy rich text
editor (e.g. no drag and drop), with absolutely no possibility to
edit markup (e.g. our ubiquitous {{tag ...}} and with restrictions
due to web programming.<br>
But if you're really fond of such editing, you may copy an OSM
page code, paste it to Wikipedia, edit it there, and
copy&paste it back to OSM.<br>
I personally don't believe much in Web editors, including e-mail.
That should run on a PC.<br>
I'm editing HTML with Kompozer which is not extraordinarily more
complex that a basic editor, but it's more than complete and
handy.<br>
If Kompozer does not know some markup, you just pull the curtain,
edit the code and come back to the visual display and editor.<br>
The boon is that the server's files are mapped (mounted) in my
Ubuntu filesystem, as if the server was on my PC, just like
editing local files.<br>
</blockquote>
I recalled that, "i<a
href="http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/traduction_de_l_interview_de_nelson_mandela">n
the old days, when we were young</a>," [<a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29">About
Ubuntu</a>, Nelson Mandela, hi, almost killed by the anti-social
networks] I noticed that MS Word seemed to be a engine capable of
editing different kinds of markups natively, notably also HTML
(foolishly the basic HTML I spoke of ;-) ), probably based on a
markup definition file.<br>
Hence, <a
href="https://www.google.be/#&q=libreoffice%20wiki%20markup">I
searched the Web</a>, and I found that <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:WordToWiki">LibreOffice
can save Wiki files directly, and Word indirectly</a>.<br>
<br>
One might find the way to add {{tag... }} and a few of our beloved
markups for a real experience.<br>
I'd love to hear feedback from such experiments (sorry no time
myself).<br>
I'm a believer that many things we write on mailing lists should
[also] be written on the wiki.<br>
<br>
I forgot to say above that a Wiki file space can also be more
conveniently mounted on the local filesystem.<br>
At least, I tested Wikipedia on Ubuntu (<a
href="http://www.ubuntu.com/">operating system</a>, of course),
that I would recommend for that kind of things.<br>
Windowers shouldn't fear a complete shake up: <a
href="http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Ubuntu-on-VirtualBox">Ubuntu
can be installed on (after) VirtualBox</a> on Windows for a
lifetime, nondestructive, free trial period. Same for Macintosh
(or... any Linux system).<br>
Only gotcha, I think: recent Ubuntu comes with a desktop called
Unity which is very resource consuming, dancing but not singing, and
is really crawling on VB. <a
href="https://www.google.be/#&q=ubuntu+unity+virtualbox+performance">There
are solutions to tame Unity</a>, but you may prefer to install a
more classic desktop like <a
href="http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04/ubuntu-12-04-how-to-install-the-gnome-session-fallback">gnome
session fallback</a> or, even closer to classic Ubuntu and better
IMHO, <a href="http://mate-desktop.org/">MATE</a>, and choose it as
your desktop before login.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
<table>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>André.</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
</body>
</html>